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adamredwoods
07-26-2009, 11:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0l4-PzDExI


The film represents a milestone for Writer/Director Robert D. Hanna, who created Prevalent Entertainment as an independent animation house that has employed an American team without outsourcing to foreign animators, and performs outside of the big studio system.

Some top CG Animators, Production Designers, and Artists from DreamWorks, Sony, and Disney studios all contributed. An integral part of the team is David Colman of Disney Feature Animation; he’s an Emmy Award winning artist who generated character designs for The Prodigy. David Lowery (Head of story on Shrek) was producer and supervisor of the story department, and Craig Elliott (Shark Tale, Bee Movie) was the inventive production designer. Steve Gordon (Shrek II, Anastasia, Over The Hedge) created essential story boards to flesh out the meaningful romantic storyline. Instructive Bonus Featurettes on the DVD illustrate a primer for future animators on “Animated Character Creation” and bringing the “Story To Life”; they document the pre-production work of the talented artists and animators who worked tirelessly on the film.

I thought it was a joke at first... but its for sale at Wal-Mart. How could "top animators" put there name on this unless it was a joke?

found on http://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/the-prodigy.html#comments

Larry_g1s
07-26-2009, 11:31 PM
That's gotta be a joke. Some kind of cruel joke.

dballesg
07-27-2009, 04:06 AM
And what about the comments on You-tube?

Those coments must be written by 5 years old kids.

It was painful watch that :(

David

cresshead
07-27-2009, 04:20 AM
looks like mo cap and poser...canned sound fx also

also it's NOT listed on amazon...opps! oh YES it is! :D

http://www.amazon.com/Prodigy-Not-applicable/dp/B0025XUTJ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1248686693&sr=1-1

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51R8-sZrYGL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

toby
07-27-2009, 05:10 AM
That's what we need smart bombs and drones for... attach a homing device to each copy, BAM! No more stupid people.

toby
07-27-2009, 05:25 AM
The film represents a milestone for Writer/Director Robert D. Hanna, who created Prevalent Entertainment as an independent animation house that has employed an American team without outsourcing to foreign animators, and performs outside of the big studio system.

Some top CG Animators, Production Designers, and Artists from DreamWorks, Sony, and Disney studios all contributed. An integral part of the team is David Colman of Disney Feature Animation; he’s an Emmy Award winning artist who generated character designs for The Prodigy. David Lowery (Head of story on Shrek) was producer and supervisor of the story department, and Craig Elliott (Shark Tale, Bee Movie) was the inventive production designer. Steve Gordon (Shrek II, Anastasia, Over The Hedge) created essential story boards to flesh out the meaningful romantic storyline. Instructive Bonus Featurettes on the DVD illustrate a primer for future animators on “Animated Character Creation” and bringing the “Story To Life”; they document the pre-production work of the talented artists and animators who worked tirelessly on the film.

I'm betting this is a BS hollywood schpiel put out by a production company that was able to get a few comments from industry regulars. If they talk to a dreamworks animator, ask for his opinion and he says "it sucks a&&", they say that 'top' dreamworks animators had 'a lot' of input. They buy a few pages of leftover concept art and credit the creator for their own benefit.

littlewaves
07-27-2009, 07:48 AM
It's not that surprising really. Like Neverko says it's easy money.

The box has a panda and "kunk fu" on it so parents will just pick it up and leave their kid in front of it and think no more about it.

Guess it's basically the animation equivalent of all those Asylum movies like "Terminators" and "Transmorphers"

Just good old exploitation movies.

This is probably what we should all be doing if we want to make any dough at the moment.

We all know there are guys on this forum who given the time could do much better than this. Maybe they should pool resources and get something on the shelves themselves.

cresshead
07-27-2009, 01:15 PM
i'd buy that for a dollar...

dandeentremont
07-27-2009, 02:43 PM
Prediction: Comments must be approved by video owner.

Edit: Yup, so that means 20 people out of 7700 views had something good to say about it.

Tonttu
07-27-2009, 03:47 PM
Kung fu panda isn't much better than this, only a bit more polished renders and animation curves. Really quite irrelevant, if you have watered down acting and unreadable faces. I think they're both exploitation. :)

Larry_g1s
07-27-2009, 03:55 PM
Kung fu panda isn't much better than this, only a bit more polished renders and animation curves. Oh wait...you're kidding. Wheww.... I was about to think you're :screwy: Good one then. :dance:

Andyjaggy
07-27-2009, 04:34 PM
My eyes hurt.

Tonttu
07-27-2009, 04:46 PM
What the heck.. I was repeating myself with "watered down" (http://www.newtek.com/forums/showpost.php?p=884626&postcount=5)!
Kung fu panda has stock expressions, this Prodigy crap nugget has stock *.*, what's the big difference?

adamredwoods
07-27-2009, 05:13 PM
Hanna Barbara implemented a lot of animation short-cuts to their cartoon-making machine.
But this isn't short-cuts, this is junk, and a setback to animation everywhere.

My biggest complaint is that these "top artists" put there name to the garbage work:

An integral part of the Prevalent team is David Colman who has also been a designer at Disney Feature Animation. David is an Emmy Award winning artist and generated character designs for THE PRODIGY.

David Colman's blog is here:
http://www.davidcolman.blogspot.com/

He's no slouch, but I wonder how he got his name attached to this. The character work is terrible, and I wouldn't hire David based off this.

At times, we do garbage work for easy money. But there are times when "no" is a better answer than selling your career short for just one job.

DiedonD
07-28-2009, 01:53 AM
Perhaps the economic crisis are to blame!

They put fear into everybodys pocket! Thus a 'quicky' might come handy!

3DGFXStudios
07-28-2009, 04:42 AM
I just got blind!.........outch.......

cresshead
07-28-2009, 08:29 AM
i'd say that the trailer doesn't look good, but will hold judgement on the actual whole film until is see it for myself..it maybe really funny and entertaining.

once it reaches the discount pricing i'll pick it up.

toby
07-28-2009, 03:37 PM
once it reaches the discount pricing i'll pick it up.
!?
why? there's a million movies out there with a much better chance of being good!

adamredwoods
07-28-2009, 06:10 PM
from NPR:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111145929


The summer box office is booming with hits like Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and The Hangover. However, Hollywood is far from happy. The recession and the general malaise of the media industry has hit hard. Kim Masters, hosts KCRW's The Business, and she talks with Steve Inskeep about the economic impact on Hollywood.

Less money = cut corners = cheaper movies.

I wonder if "Plan 9 From Outer Space" rose out from a need for cheap movies in a recession?
1959, top movie was Ben-Hur and sure 'nuff, a recession the year before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1958

zapper1998
07-28-2009, 07:52 PM
o m g .... :)

Titus
07-28-2009, 08:14 PM
It depends on the audience. If they aim to very young kids then the work is OK, I've seen worst animations at Discovery Kids.

borkus
07-28-2009, 08:37 PM
Agreed. Kids have the lowest expectations imaginable. My ex-girlfriend's two kids would watch things that would bring tears to my eyes, and they loved it... They would watch them over and over and over and over and over and over... You get the point. It almost seemed that they didn't even really care for the ones that were somewhat appealing. Like Finding Nemo. I hate that movie like no other (in that I had to sit through it a few hundred times...), but they didn't seem nearly as interested in that. Of course they didn't, the animation was actually good. No, they latched on to movies and shows that made a 3d hobbyist want to vomit on a minute by minute basis...

toby
07-28-2009, 08:46 PM
If I had kids I wouldn't let them watch stuff like this, their standards would never improve. Then they'd never have a chance at being a 3d artist... wait, mixed blessing there...

Tonttu
07-29-2009, 05:32 AM
Producers' laziness and greed lead to dumbing down of kids.
Here's a great audiovisual comment on selling crap to children, in the form of a Watchmen spoof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w

toby
07-29-2009, 05:47 AM
Producers' laziness and greed
don't forget cluelessness
actually, they're little more than accountants who know how to bid -