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Fictive-Studios
07-16-2009, 05:39 PM
Hi
How are you ??
Hope your doing great

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I have a small problem and i guess i need your help
it's driving me crazy, and i tried to email and contact the support people in newtech
but i didn't get any answer


I have an original copy of Lightwave 3D 9.6
and I installed it on my G5 Mac
but it seems to crash A LOT
every time i use lightwave modeler or layout, it crashes over 20 times
i cant seem to build, animate or render any god damn object


I downloaded also a project that contains objects,scenes and everything
they appear fine, but when i move the camera or switch on any tool or do anything, lightwave just turns the objects into bounding box
then the application get jammed and it takes up to 15 sec. to update the objects !
even if i moved the frames....for example i move the arrow from frame 1 to frame 2
lightwave takes 15 sec. to update and get jammed ...




it's been driving me crazy and my G5 mac has all the best hardwares installed in it
this is my G5 Mac Hardware and software list :

Model Name : Mac Pro
Processor Name : Quad-Core Intel Xeon
processor Speed : 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors : 2
Number Of Cores : 8
Memory : 4GB
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
VRAM : 512 MB




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Please Please Please Help Me ...
:(
Yours ...

cresshead
07-16-2009, 06:05 PM
if your mac pro is a a quad xeon it's NOT a G5 mac for a start as G5 MEANs the cpu type...

re the origional copy...do you mean you bought it or you have a 'copy'...did the software you bought arrive boxed with the usb dongle for example?

before moving forward if i were you i'd visit the download page on newtek's site and get the latest demo version of lightwave 9.6 to make usre your problems are not related to a broken installer.


demo page here
http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lwtrial.php

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 06:06 AM
i just knew that mine is not a G5 system

and yes i got it in a box with the usb

so do you suggest i remove it from my mac and re install it from the web site ?

cresshead
07-17-2009, 06:44 AM
just be sure your installing lightwave 9.6 as that's the latest version of lightwave, other versions before may have been less stable.

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 07:03 AM
this is what i got when i bought the program
lightwave 9.6
it included two cds amd usb

cresshead
07-17-2009, 07:24 AM
sounds a bit annoying then....hav you emailed support from this web page?
http://www.newtek.com/faq/index.php?contact=tech

you'll want to give them your name, serial number and harware key number etc and also your system specs including o/s version which OSX version fo example and if your running localised fonts or standard fonts on your system.

cresshead
07-17-2009, 07:35 AM
I downloaded also a project that contains objects,scenes and everything
they appear fine, but when i move the camera or switch on any tool or do anything, lightwave just turns the objects into bounding box
then the application get jammed and it takes up to 15 sec. to update the objects !
even if i moved the frames....for example i move the arrow from frame 1 to frame 2
lightwave takes 15 sec. to update and get jammed ...




in layout press the d key on your keyboard [make sure it's lowercase not a capital D]

then press the display tab and adjust to 2 things i've hilighted in my screengrab

raising the bounding box threshold will stop scenes jumping into bounding box if you move around in your scene, by default it's set to 50,000 polys so looks like your scene is more than 50,000 polys this is quite a ueful feature to have if you have a multimillion poly scene but the default is set quite low..i ususaly have it set up around a million polys or so.

the other thing is you can delay the redarw of the screen or have it interactive...that menas if it's interactive as you move around th camera etc they will update..delayed means they will not redraw the scene until you drop the mouse movements.

hope this helps a little.

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 07:43 AM
the same
it take ages to redraw whenever i leave the mouse
when ever i move any object just a little or when i move any frame
the mouse turns into a colorwheel for 10 seconds then it works

3DGFXStudios
07-17-2009, 07:58 AM
Maybe you have bad memory?

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 08:04 AM
Memory : 4GB !
is that bad ?

cresshead
07-17-2009, 08:35 AM
you could have poor quailty ram...if you've added new 3rd party ram recently to your system go back to what you bought with the mac from apple even if it's just 1 gig.

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 08:42 AM
the original parts were 2 Ram
i added 2 extra rams
does that affect the system ? i mean is there brands for the ram ?

cresshead
07-17-2009, 08:59 AM
yes...go back to your origional 2 gig an then try out your macpro...your new ram may have made your computer unstable.

your surposed to match ram and not mix brands in a pc generally...also some ram sticks run at different speeds and different cooling capabilities for example.

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 09:03 AM
i upgraded my mac pro at the same shop i bouoght it from
i think they should know that
but i'll give it a try today ..
is there any specific brand u recomend ? in case i needed to replace the ram

archijam
07-17-2009, 09:04 AM
.. and download 9.3 from the registration and download page, or the CFM (non-Intel-optimised) based version, to see if there's a difference.

The G5's here are all fine with 9.6

cresshead
07-17-2009, 09:16 AM
.. and download 9.3 from the registration and download page, or the CFM (non-Intel-optimised) based version, to see if there's a difference.

The G5's here are all fine with 9.6

he actually has an intel pacpro not a G5 i believe

re bands of ram...Kingston ram is rock solid...make sure you get ram that is MADE for the mac pro and also make sure it arrives with the heat disapators ortherwaise they will run hot and not work right.

3DGFXStudios
07-17-2009, 09:54 AM
I don't know how this works on a mac but maybe you can run Memtest86+ to check for faulty ram. Bad ram was a killer for me twice recently. Don't buy Corsair dominators. They suck ***.

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 10:26 AM
is it ok to install 9.3 directly or should remove 9.6 from the pc first ?

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 10:28 AM
about the ram
i need something like Memtest86+ to check first the ram failing

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 10:46 AM
i just open the case
the extra ram is exactly the same as the original one
the same brand
i tried to take the 2 extra ram and worked on the original two
but the same. .. nothing changed .
is it because the video card by any chance ?
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT

cresshead
07-17-2009, 11:26 AM
might be just a bad install...

put 9.3 on as well...just point to a different folder when installing..rename it 93 or something..it's okay to have all versions on at the same time...i have 7.5 and 9.6 for example...just installed in different folders.

lets be methodical about tring to find out what's up..so install another version and see how that behaves...

also you ARE trying more than just 1 lightwave scene correct?
just to test tha the actual 'lightwave scene' is not corrupt?

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 11:37 AM
yes i'm trying more than one scene
trying different objects
not just one
i\ll download 9.3 now if i can find it

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 11:42 AM
where can i find 9.3 trial ?

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 11:57 AM
i only managed to find version 9.0
i installed it but couldn't open any object or scene
it says the file is for newer version

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 12:13 PM
OMG OMG OMG
i did it
exported the scene from 9.6 to a 7 version scene
then i opened the scene in lightwave 9.0

it was fast as hell !!
it worked
i moved the camera smothly
i played with frames
i did everything with no crashing or jamming


so i guess the problem is in version 9.6

what should i do now ?

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 12:19 PM
nope :P
it crashed also when i hit render ...
but everything else worked just fine

danielkaiser
07-17-2009, 12:22 PM
This sounds more like a OpenGL problem, make sure that the NVIDIA drivers are up to date.

For Modeler I believe that Lightwave ships with GLSL shaders active, go to the display options > GL tab and change it to Multitexture Shaders, GLSL in modeler is quite buggy.

As far as Layout, it can become unresponsive with very large scene files, try changing the view port settings to wire frame.

With that 8800 GT lightwave should be fairly slippery.

Reinstalling lightwave is always an option.

cresshead
07-17-2009, 12:23 PM
well if it's working in 9.0 then go to 'my downloads' and go get 9.31 and see if that also is fine.

also now you've exported as a 7.0 type scene just try that 7.0 scene back in 9.6 and see if that's okay...

cresshead
07-17-2009, 12:25 PM
yeah sounds like a buggy video card/driver

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 12:39 PM
i found 9.3
installed it
tried the 7.0 file .... it crashes and it get jammed .. :(
i tried the file also on 9.6 ... nothing change ... still the same problem .

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 12:55 PM
re installing will make me register again and do what i did when i first time installed it ?>
btw the video card was installed .. when i bought the mac pro it had another video card..

Greenlaw
07-17-2009, 01:11 PM
I mainly use on a Windows-based laptop, but a couple of years ago, I had what sounds like the same problem you're having. LightWave was pokey and crashed like crazy with the factory installed video drivers and, unfortunately, the laptop manufacturer (Dell) never updated the drivers. I finally found newer drivers from a third party website (probably www.guru3D.com,) and not only did LightWave stop crashing, the speed improved tremendously.

I don't know where you might find newer video drivers for your system, but I would certainly look for them.

Greenlaw

cresshead
07-17-2009, 01:42 PM
yeah seems to be a hardware driver issue

Scazzino
07-17-2009, 01:56 PM
If the video board came with the Mac, then the drivers are built right into Mac OS X by Apple and don't normally need upgrading (outside of normal system upgrades). You could make sure you're using the latest version of Mac OS X (which will have the latest video drivers).

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 02:24 PM
I am using the latest software for mac
but it's not the video card that came with it when i bought it
the GForce 8800 was installed after i bought it


i took my mac pro to the shop where i bought it and asked them to replace
the video card with this one ..

do you think i should go back to the shop and ask for the default video card ?
or do u recommend any other video cards that works well with LW

danielkaiser
07-17-2009, 02:36 PM
nope :P
it crashed also when i hit render ...
but everything else worked just fine


I am using the latest software for mac
but it's not the video card that came with it when i bought it
the GForce 8800 was installed after i bought it


i took my mac pro to the shop where i bought it and asked them to replace
the video card with this one ..

do you think i should go back to the shop and ask for the default video card ?
or do u recommend any other video cards that works well with LW

Do you know what Make/Model that was replaced?

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 02:40 PM
unfortunately no i don't know the model of the original card

cresshead
07-17-2009, 05:03 PM
have you done a mac update..where the mac should go off n update all the software n drivers...

Fictive-Studios
07-17-2009, 06:04 PM
i check the ( update software ) from the apple icon top left ...weekly
i update the mace everytime there is a new upgrade for it

Fictive-Studios
07-18-2009, 05:29 AM
any suggestions for a new video card ?

cresshead
07-18-2009, 05:41 AM
you might want to ask that in the mac forum for lightwave as many here use pc so are little help!

http://www.newtek.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

3DGFXStudios
07-18-2009, 06:02 AM
Here's a link to memtest86 also for intel mac's http://matt.ucc.asn.au/memtest/

Fictive-Studios
07-18-2009, 06:30 AM
>.<

this is the first time i see it
what should i download and how can i use it ?

sorry for bothering guys ..

danielkaiser
07-18-2009, 01:11 PM
If the video board came with the Mac, then the drivers are built right into Mac OS X by Apple and don't normally need upgrading (outside of normal system upgrades). You could make sure you're using the latest version of Mac OS X (which will have the latest video drivers).

My ? is who decides when the NVIDIA drivers are to be upgraded NVIDIA can release new drivers once or twice a month ? are they NVIDIA's code or are they Apple's?

Scazzino
07-18-2009, 01:16 PM
My ? is who decides when the NVIDIA drivers are to be upgraded NVIDIA can release new drivers once or twice a month ? are they NVIDIA's code or are they Apple's?

Apple usually handles the Mac drivers as part of Mac OS X (though they may have the vendor's help with the code, not sure about that). They usually include the latest drivers with the latest Mac OS X updates... I've never had to upgrade a video driver on Mac OS X, other than normal system updates...

:)

danielkaiser
07-18-2009, 01:21 PM
any suggestions for a new video card ?

The card you have should work fine, unless the drivers have some kind of stability problems with that model, sometimes an older driver will work best with a certain model/application combo i.e. Lightwave. Are you experiencing problems with other aps. that use OpenGL?

Fictive-Studios
07-18-2009, 02:02 PM
i couldn't find any new driver for my video card
but i keep updating my mac whenever there is a new update
whats you video card Scazzino ?

Scazzino
07-18-2009, 02:20 PM
I have an ATI-Radeon X1900XP on a 3GHz 8-core Mac Pro,
an ATI-Radeon 9800 Pro AGP on a 2GHz dual processor G5,
and ATI-Radeon 9000 pros on older 1.25 GHz dual processor G4's.

They all came with the Macs as build to order options...

Fictive-Studios
07-18-2009, 02:33 PM
:P god bless these babies for u ..
u really gave me hope in my mac ..

if u can suggest something for me that will be nice ..
some one told me today something about having two video cards installed
which will double the power .... happen to know anything about this ?

Scazzino
07-18-2009, 02:43 PM
LightWave should work fine with whatever video card comes with the Mac.

The more video memory the better. If LightWave's crashing, but everything else on the Mac is running stable, then it's probably a LightWave problem, not a problem with your Mac. If other programs are also crashing then it's probably a problem with your Mac.

Fictive-Studios
07-18-2009, 03:06 PM
no .. it's only LW that crash
hmm ..

Fictive-Studios
09-05-2009, 04:25 PM
still facing problems with the crashing

i purchased FPrime 3.5
it crashes whenever i click on it

i purchased LWCAD , it crashes whenever i want to create a floor



i started to hate Lightwave Like HELL !!!!!!



any help please ?

all the other softwares are working fine .. nothing is crashing except LW


i upgraded my mac to snow leopard today

still the same ...

nothing changed at all ..



what should i do ?



i tried to report bugs to LW support guys

i reported 4 times and i didn't get any reply since 2 months ..


please help me .. i think i'll switch to modo !!!!

3DGFXStudios
09-05-2009, 04:32 PM
Buy a PC ;)

Makes life a lot easier!

Fictive-Studios
09-05-2009, 04:39 PM
i hate pc's
hmm

i wish i can find whats the problem
most of the people has a stable LW with their macs ..

oobievision
09-05-2009, 04:43 PM
another thing make sure your ram matches as some companies have different timmings and can actually screw up the ram. also reinstalling may help but this time go to your registration page, mydownloads and download the version of lightwave for ur machine. If your still having trouble I suggest calling Newtek as its always faster than waiting for an email. on the phone they will be able to help u out allot faster then waiting for an email.

3DGFXStudios
09-05-2009, 04:44 PM
i hate pc's
hmm

i wish i can find whats the problem
most of the people has a stable LW with their macs ..

Buy a new Mac :D


I hate pc too. Actually I hate windows. Nothing wrong with a pc running linux ;). But the PC version of lw is more stable then the mac version I guess...

Fictive-Studios
09-05-2009, 04:44 PM
all my ram sticks are Kingstone

i upgraded my ram to 8 Gig..

still the same .. nothing changed ..

Fictive-Studios
09-05-2009, 04:46 PM
Buy a new Mac :D


I hate pc too. Actually I hate windows. Nothing wrong with a pc running linux ;). But the PC version of lw is more stable then the mac version I guess...

i'm really really confused

i wasted all my money on this mac

i mean common look at what i have

it's supposed to create a whole animation filled with objects

and i can't create a ball or a small room :(

3DGFXStudios
09-05-2009, 04:47 PM
did you do a memory test. If you didn't DO IT NOW. ;)

Fictive-Studios
09-05-2009, 04:49 PM
yup i did

all the sticks passed the test with green light

3DGFXStudios
09-05-2009, 04:49 PM
http://www.memtestosx.org/joomla/index.php

Here you can download some test software.......

Fictive-Studios
09-05-2009, 04:51 PM
i'll give it a try ..

3DGFXStudios
09-05-2009, 04:54 PM
Oooo!!! Strange that is I say......If I where you I'd replace every hardware component just to find the error. Disconnect every thing you don't need. Put just one mem stick in it and try again. I mean if you have some usb stuff connected remove that also. Also disconnect all hardrives except the one with you os on it of course. If you have an other graphics board try that one even if it's a slow old one...

toby
09-05-2009, 06:16 PM
But he said that LW was the only thing crashing, right?

Have you deleted the preference files? You're supposed to after installing, that's worth a try. And you didn't install the CFM version did you?

Hieron
09-05-2009, 06:17 PM
I feel for ya man, but can't be of help. No clue about mac's...

For a pc I would strip all nonsense out and go to on-board graphics controller (if available) and worst case do a full reinstall. Or just take a empty HD and do a 2nd install on that one, just to test, keeping the original boot disk safe.

But for mac... no clue how much can be done...

Mr Big
09-05-2009, 07:11 PM
I was having a problem similar to this on a pc, it was because some of the old lightwave
objects wouldn't work with 9.6, I had to create new objects then the scene would render correctly. Also if you are doing animation remember to hit the return key to create a keyframe, failing to do this can also make LW unstable.

mav3rick
09-06-2009, 04:14 AM
1st did u try to delete any config files and try work in freshly generated one and see if it crash

Fictive-Studios
09-06-2009, 05:23 AM
Wow ..

i didn't realize that memtest will take so long
anyways ..
the mac passed all the test ... nothing is wrong with the memory or anything




hmmm how do i delete the preferences files or the config files and create a new fresh files please ? never tried that before...

mav3rick
09-06-2009, 09:28 AM
i dunno at MAC osx but at windows it is usually in C:\Documents and Settings\users\

but i prefear to use -c before starting lw

for example do shortcut for layout and in property of shortcut put this
"D:\LightWave 3D 9.6\Programs\lightwav.exe" -c"D:\LightWave 3D 9.6\Programs\CONFIG"

this means layout will start with config files created in D:\LightWave 3D 9.6\Programs\CONFIG folder

be sure to create that folder before 1st start after fresh install....

same goes to modeler

Fictive-Studios
09-06-2009, 09:42 AM
hmmm the problem is i never used windows before
i can't get it exactly
maybe will see if someone from the mac users can help me
by explaining this ..
thanks

caesar
09-06-2009, 09:59 AM
Im using 9.6 in Leopard perfectly (Modeler sometimes gets crazy with some edge tools, but Im think its the same with pc version).

I think your MAc is OK, but try this:

1- Search AppTrash and install
2-Move your LW install folder from Aplications to trash
3-AppTrash will ask to keep or move (to trash) the LW preferences, choose Move
4-Go to Disk Utilities, choose you HD and run Repair Disk Permissions
5-Install LW
6-Test some scenes from the content disc

I hope it helps!

Or...keep on bugging NT support and the guys where you bought your Mac

Fictive-Studios
09-06-2009, 10:02 AM
it's been long time my friend :P
thanx for replying
good to see u again



one small question .. after moving LW to trash
installing it again
would that affect the fprime and lwcad and lw registering and s/n ?
or i install them normal as i did when i bought it ?

caesar
09-06-2009, 10:43 AM
After trashing LW and the prefs file, the reinstall should work as the 1st install.
Itll read the S/N from the dongle, I think it wont be a problem for fprime and lwcad.

Fictive-Studios
09-06-2009, 10:53 AM
hmmm i couldn't find apptrash
i think the name is wrong ..
r u sure ?

caesar
09-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Sorry, AppTrap http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/25323

JonW
09-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Hieron’s suggestion is good.

I’d take out your HD drive & put in a new HD, install the OS, then install LW & nothing else. Also create your own brand new simple scene for this test.

It easy to do & gets back to basics. If LW works here then there is some hope. If it doesn’t then its definitely ram or graphics etc.

I’d also remove the additional ram as well, the less variables the better, if LW works then, put the ram back in, & retry.

Put things back one by one & test your scene each time.

I think its best to go at the problem with a sledge hammer, rather than fiddling around the edges which will probably take ten times longer in the long run.

And in the process you will get a nice new clean install.

androidmaker
09-06-2009, 08:35 PM
you have an diffrent video card than the one that came with your system? if so did they remove all of the old drivers from your old video card? you may have a problem with two drivers clashing.

toby
09-06-2009, 10:01 PM
Hieron’s suggestion is good.

I’d take out your HD drive & put in a new HD, install the OS, then install LW & nothing else. Also create your own brand new simple scene for this test.

It easy to do & gets back to basics. If LW works here then there is some hope. If it doesn’t then its definitely ram or graphics etc.

I’d also remove the additional ram as well, the less variables the better, if LW works then, put the ram back in, & retry.

Put things back one by one & test your scene each time.

I think its best to go at the problem with a sledge hammer, rather than fiddling around the edges which will probably take ten times longer in the long run.

And in the process you will get a nice new clean install.
I agree with the kitchen-sink approach, but replacing the hard drive because one app crashes seems a bit rash! Esp. when that one app is a PC port!

Fictive-Studios
09-07-2009, 07:20 AM
The HD is not cheap
and changing it for just one app is not a gd idea

btw : my pc doesn't have any softwares installed on it except LW
it's brand new


anyway i did removed LW with apptrash
made a new fresh install


heheh funny thing
right after the installation i started LW and i tried to build
a small wall with LWCAD ... and look what happened

i captured a screen video so you can feel me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqAAz7j5PqQ


welcome to my HELL LIFE !!!!!!!!

toby
09-07-2009, 12:27 PM
Quit LW, go to McIntoshHD/Users/yourname/Library/Preferences/LW3D and trash everything except the license.key. The preference files that install with LW have been known to cause problems. Run LW again and then quit, to create new ones. Then you should probably try LW without the plugins first.

aa1037
09-07-2009, 01:00 PM
Have you tried creating a new/additional user account?

caesar
09-07-2009, 01:25 PM
Quit LW, go to McIntoshHD/Users/yourname/Library/Preferences/LW3D and trash everything except the license.key. The preference files that install with LW have been known to cause problems. Run LW again and then quit, to create new ones. Then you should probably try LW without the plugins first.

Thats what Apptrap do: delete pref file when uninstalling an app.
Did you check the permissions in Disk utilities?

Thats very strange, never saw LW behaving like this...

Could try something: unistall everything, put off the dongle and download the demo version from NT website (dont use your dvd copy).
Try to use it (it´ll load in discovery mode, which dont support your plugins).
Try if it works, build 2 scenes, etc.
If it works, put on the dongle and S/N, maybe you dvd is corrupted (??? just guessing)

toby
09-07-2009, 02:34 PM
Thats what Apptrap do: delete pref file when uninstalling an app.
Yes, but when you re-install you've got those same preference files back.

WShawn
09-07-2009, 03:59 PM
Just for the heck of it you could download and run the demo version of Cinema 4D. It might be helpful to know whether other 3D programs behave properly. You'd said that all your other programs work properly, but are any of them 3D programs?

Shawn Marshall
Marshall Arts Motion Graphics

Fictive-Studios
09-07-2009, 04:28 PM
thanx guys for the support
and about the prefrences files .. i guess thats what apptrap do
but if they came back when re intsall it ... is it goin to be new files ???


anyways .. i tried before to download LW V9.3 demo version
it worked better than 9.6

it crashed .. but not like 9.6 where i create anything and it crash



no .. i don't have any other 3d softwares ..
but i guess i'll download cinema 4D and try it ..

the support people and the bugs people didn't reply
but i got a message today saying all my reports has been delyied !!
dunno why ..
i'll try to download 9.6 demo and see whats going on ..

Hieron
09-07-2009, 04:37 PM
I agree with the kitchen-sink approach, but replacing the hard drive because one app crashes seems a bit rash! Esp. when that one app is a PC port!

Well, this is a 84 replies thread, 2 months old with words like "welcome to my HELL LIFE !!!!!!!!"and you think just tossing in a drive to install a clean OS on without wasting the existing one is rash? :)

The problem lies most probably in the OS/drivers/(edit: ah yes ofc also preference files). They must have gotten messed up at some point. Just installing the OS on another drive + LW can't be more than a few hours work right? That would rule out a whole lot of probable causes and may just fix it.

OSX can't be that hard to install I reckon, must be easier than Vista, and that one is supereasy/quick these days.



The HD is not cheap
and changing it for just one app is not a gd idea

welcome to my HELL LIFE !!!!!!!!


You buy a pc with that kind of pricetag, and worry about ~40$ ? You don't need to put a 2 TB drive in you know? And if you don't have a secondary drive yet you need it anyway. The drop in price of that Mac in those wasted 2 months is more than the pricetag of 1 small HD :)

Again, I have no clue of Mac's. If that was my pc of a gazillion $'s. It'd be stripped, OS reinstalled, graphicscard tossed out and switched in 1 day.

But sure, take the subtle route..

toby
09-07-2009, 04:41 PM
and about the prefrences files .. i guess thats what apptrap do
but if they came back when re intsall it ... is it goin to be new files???
No, that's why I keep saying delete them. This is a common procedure for some applications, including LW, on both platforms. It may not solve the problem, but it's one of the first (and easiest) things to try.

Hieron
09-07-2009, 04:45 PM
No, that's why I keep saying delete them. This is a common procedure for some applications, including LW, on both platforms. It may not solve the problem, but it's one of the first (and easiest) things to try.

Errrm yes, before swapping the HD that is a good thing to try :) But I had assumed that had been done weeks ago..

toby
09-07-2009, 04:50 PM
Btw, is this Snow Leopard? That's bound to cause problems if it is, until 9.6.1 comes out.

Fictive-Studios
09-07-2009, 05:10 PM
yup

i got this expensive pc so i don't worry about buyin other things

one ques. : is it possiable to get an external hd ? or does it have to be mac internal hd ?



i cannot strip my pc if u say so :p the graphic card came with the pc as ordered
i ordered this card before i get my pc
it's not like a bought the pc and decided to change the card ... so i don't
have the original standard card if thats what u mean

hmmm
so for now ... get a new hd ... install os there ... instal lw .... and check whats happening ? right ?

JonW
09-07-2009, 09:38 PM
I recently changed all 3 HD in my prehistoric Mac Dual 533Mhz. The computer is perfectly ok for run of the mill stuff. The Mac is so old it only recognises up 128 gb of a HD. The smallest I could readily get (from a PC shop) was 250gb, oh well.

Any way, after half a day, 3 new HDs, all the programs back onboard, I have nice new reliable box, with HDs a shop will almost pay you to take off their hands. Quick & easy!

Small HDs are so cheap now its not funny, & today its the best way to archive, CDs & DVDs are just too painful & cost too much in time & per gb.



If a cheap HD is out of the question, you could copy the LW CD to the computer & have the “LW updates” on the computer as well. (I keep a copy of LW on the computer if I need to reinstall it, its the quickest way). Then launch your Mac from the CD OS, & then install LW & test it.

But for the price of less than 2 pizzas I would personally go a small HD! & then you automatically have another HD for back ups.

If all else fails, as said in an above post, buy a cheap PC, LW will work in both at no extra cost & then when you eventually get the Mac working you will have the best of both worlds.

Fictive-Studios
09-08-2009, 06:01 AM
btw i upgraded my pc to snow leopard 2 days ago

and still the same ... my problem is before that ... since 2 months i guess ...



hmmm but u didnt tell me ... is an external hd will do the job ?

Hieron
09-08-2009, 06:39 AM
I'm a Mac n00b, if you say you upgraded to Leopard, is that upgrading or a total reinstall.

If it is a full reinstall and didn't fix anything, then there is no need to do it again. Then the issue lies in hardware vs LW.

I guess :)

Fictive-Studios
09-08-2009, 11:24 AM
yup
i did a full installation of leopard
nothing changed
:)

caesar
09-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Have you tried the support forums in apple.com?
Cmom NT, help this guy!!!!

Mr Big
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
I saw this in the Lightwave 10 thread,

It is also the case that we have one more v9.x update in the works, tentatively designated v9.6.1. It has a lot of bug fixes in place, as well as the long-awaited Cocoa code conversion which allows for a 64-bit Mac UB LightWave build to join the fold. As noted in my earlier post on this thread, we expect that to begin Open Beta sometime this month.

LightWave HC also includes the Cocoa conversion and a 64-bit Mac version.

I looked up your processor & its 64 bit. Snow leopard defaults to 64 bit if you have the processor. Chuck said " Nt is going to release a bug fix sometime this month"

Fictive-Studios
09-09-2009, 03:41 PM
guys i just want u to know
i got a pc which has high specifications ... it will arrive tomorrow
i guess i'll use it until they release the update with the fixes

it's no use .. i survived two months with this problem and i can't take it anymore

:)

i have one final question to end my thread .. .




the lightwave cd i bought has 3 setup files
one UB file ( mac )
one CFM ( Mac )
and one exe. ( windows )

is the windows file for both 64 bits and 32 ?
cause i got the 64 bit ... .



another thing
is it possible to register LW for my other new pc ? cause it seems i have one dongle

the same goes for fprime and lwcad

^^

thanx for the high support guys ... u really tried everythin u can

but thats the end i guess.... i have a big comin project and i cant waste my time with this problem anymore

caesar
09-09-2009, 07:24 PM
Fictive-Studios, you dont really need a PC, just use Boot Camp to create another partition and install Windows (XP or 7 , Vista is a no go) inside OSX. It´ll install all the driver automatically. After that, you can choose what system to boot (Boot Camp wont mess your OS X install).
Mr Big mentioned the 32/64 bit kernel in Snow Leo, yeah that could the the answer to your problems(Im still running leo). You could try to boot your Mac in 32bit kernel presing the keys 3 and 2 while booting (read that in macworld.com I think...)
Anyway, good work!

Fictive-Studios
09-09-2009, 08:22 PM
i did a boot camp once
installed adobe master collection
and it was so weird and a slow than when i use them in osx
it seems the boot camp doesn't give u the full power of the pc
somethin like that ..

Fictive-Studios
09-09-2009, 08:33 PM
by the way
i did that on my laptop
not my mac desktop

when i tried to run a boot camp on my desktop mac
i had some problems too

while i was installin windows
i inserted the register code )S/N)

it worked fine
when i finished my setup and lunched windows
at the startup it asked me for my s/n again
and when i inserted the s/n
it said that it has been used and it's valid :P

this problem accrued to many maaaany and people
it's not me only
it seems that the mac pro i have ( the generation of this mac ) is not compatible with the bootcamp

the solution is vista only .... xp 64 wont work ..

:( ...

Fictive-Studios
09-10-2009, 02:53 PM
:)

i have one final question to end my thread .. .




The lightwave cd i bought has 3 setup files
one ub file ( mac )
one cfm ( mac )
and one exe. ( windows )

is the windows file for both 64 bits and 32 ?
Cause i got the 64 bit ... .



Another thing
is it possible to register lw for my other new pc ? Cause it seems i have one dongle

the same goes for fprime and lwcad





: )

caesar
09-12-2009, 03:47 AM
Your Mac is compatible with XP, VISTA and 7, 32 and 64 bit. Problems with serial, its a windows thing, not of your hardware. I play Crysis Warhead with my Mac, Bootcamp is the same that installing windows on a PC.
You can use LW.exe (choose SSE) for 64. You can use LW in any Mac/PC with the same dongle, one at a time.

Fictive-Studios
09-12-2009, 05:12 AM
well
it's just that i got the pc ^^
i installed lw on the new pc

it wont work unless i unplug the usb dongle from the mac
and place it in the pc


is there a way to get them both work together ?

toby
09-12-2009, 02:54 PM
well
it's just that i got the pc ^^
i installed lw on the new pc

it wont work unless i unplug the usb dongle from the mac
and place it in the pc


is there a way to get them both work together ?
Not really, since that would mean you have 2 (or many more) copies of LW for the price of one, and that's what the dongle is there for. You can however start a render on one machine, then remove the dongle and use it on the other. But as soon as that render is done it'll go into demo mode; watermark, and no saving.

JonW
09-13-2009, 07:45 AM
With one dongle you can run up to 1000 CPUs. All you need to do is set up Screamernet. There is a stack of info in the SN threads.

If you prefer to avoid the challenge of setting up a render network yourself, there are plenty of third party network renderers.