small sweet/ugly boy

[xtrm3d]

soo beside of the lapin rose small project i decided to start somethimg else.. ( have too much time now.. )

i want to show with this one.. the small ugly gnome that live deep inside of sweet small boy.. believe me i have one at home.. i know what i am talking about

for now.. just shadding test .. no color, spec , or bump map .. even the morphe is not final.. i think i would have to make him look more evil.. really more evil.. ... may be red skinned in place of green.. what do you think ?

small disclaimer : no this one would not have any penis.. cause it´s dont deserve the character design... if you want to see some penis.. then go to the lapin thread



http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.ph...15&pagenumber=3

[xtrm3d]

whaaaoo.. 43 view.. until now.. and not even a critique or advice ?
humm.. it is so bad ?? :p lol


ok a new one .. befor i start with the hair ..:D

[MarkJTaylor]

Looking good so far :) The second looks much much better.

There's only one thing that bothers me, and thats his lips. They don't look all that defined. I'm guessing that's the look you were going for however.

Looks great.... can't wait to see his body :)

[xtrm3d]

@ MarkJTaylor

thanx for the critique..
actually.. i wnat to go for a non realistic modelling look but with a "realistc rendering"

i still think that you are right with the lipe.. i would have to refine them later when i start to model the mounth, theet and thong...

i am not sure theta i would model a body.. jsut want to do some lips sync ..:-)

[xtrm3d]

some hair done..
not the final one... but going in the overall direction for form and color..

[MarkJTaylor]

I love the hair. He is looking excellent. I really wish you'd think about doing a body for this guy, I'd love to see what style of clothing he prefers, and how he holds himself :)

[xtrm3d]

mr MarkJTaylor

i hate you !!! :D

now that you spoke about doing a body for him..
a new idea hurted my head ..
i play with the idea of making a young skinny barbarian slave out of him....
with hair and cloth..

humm.. but first i have to work on the rabit .. :-)

[MarkJTaylor]

Fantastic! He's looking wicked now. I love the chain and cuff around his neck. Excellent touch ;)

[xtrm3d]

thx..
really i apreciate your critique.. :-)
humm by the way.. i am still curiouse why i dont get more reply..
c´mon people.. i need some fresh ideas ..and critiques..

[MarkJTaylor]

Try giving him a penis like Lapin Rose :) That tends to draw a crowd lol.

[richpr]

I think the chain is a bit harsh... not to be politically correct ;), but it reminds me of child labor or something bad... A dog's collar with studs could be cool and less 'je-ne-sais-quoi'... Nice chain, though!

Love the hair...!

[mmecca]

make him an altar boy...

[quatermain]

umm - is this the rabbit's pet ?

[xtrm3d]

@ MarkJTaylor

a penis ??

heheh.. yes.. yes...sex sell !! lol

@ quatermain


no..no.. nothing to do with the rabit.. cause my friend is animating the rabit in messiah.. i cannot work on it now ..as soon i got the scene file back with animation.. i would start the final ligthning in and shading in lw.. this one is just.. to do something differant

@ mmecca
an altar boy.. humm yes why not need to think about it ..

@ richpr
politicaly correct ..lol.. i cannot remember that i ever taked care about politicaly corectness..

yes.. yes.. you are right .. i want to make a slave out of hime..
the idea with child labor is not bad ,... a barbarian child.. who workevry day on a really big wheel.. remember me a bit of conan the barbarian :-)

for the dog colar .. still need to see how i would do it.. .. but first of all .. this small bastard need a body ..:-)

[julos]

Great ! As usual you have a nice style. I love the eyes, how do you do them ?

[xtrm3d]

@ julos


merci..
ok for teh eye.. it´s relativ simple..
they look like this .. cause i gave them something to reflect.. ( big polygone with luminosity 300 % )
and the cornea material..has 98 % transparancy 5 % reflection 1.6 refraction ..

a wireframe.. for the people who are interested ..

[julos]

Thanks ! The reflection is the key then...

[kellyv]

Hey xtrm3d! Lookin cool! Is there a way for you to play with the brows in his expressions/faces. I think that would add to it! I like the metalhead/korn groupie look! *those were the days... sigh* :D


Lookin good,

Kelly

[MarkJTaylor]

Christophe, I saw the little slave boys body up at cgtalk. Looking excellent :) Throw some updates over here will ya!

I think you should put a Turian Camisk on him.

It's a style of camisk worn by slaves; it consists of a piece of cloth shaped like an inverted 'T' with a beveled crossbar; it fastens behind the neck & falls before the wearer's body; the crossbar then passes between her legs & is then brought forward snugly at the hips; it is held in place by a single cord that binds it at the back of the neck, behind the back, & in front at the waist

:D Or maybe I'm just twisted.

[xtrm3d]

hehhe.. yes my friend you are a twisted mind..
but no worry.. me too :-)

actully i a thinking about modelling him first naked..
teh to put soem accesoire and cloth later on him..
a friend of mine told me today.. that he could need him as a depraved hard rock star .. for a short :-)

no worry.. so or so.. we would get a slave version... hummm a lust slave ? .. lol

[MarkJTaylor]

As mentioned earlier, he's looking fantastic!

You could have him naked, kneeling on the ground, with the chain around his neck attached to a stump or stake in the ground. But the chain is so short, that he can't do anything but be slumped on his hands and knees on the ground next to the stake. :D

Seeing this character makes me want to do somthing in a similar style. A simple stylish cartoony character, but with a nice realistic render....

hmmm.... I'm off to play in lightwave, I may have somthing up later today.

[xtrm3d]

i know.. iknow..
we are going away from ethe initial cute /evil boy.idea.. ..
i am going more in the direction to an adolescent slave..
just modelling on the flow.. and changing my mind every 3 hour

[MarkJTaylor]

I say screw the cute-boy idea. The slave idea is comming along nicely.

I say take the chain comming down from his neck, and extend it down over his abdoment, and attach it to another chain around his waste... slave it up a little more :D

[richpr]

Whereas his face is chubby, cutesy, his body is that of a young schwarzenegger... a bit too muscular I'd say...

[xtrm3d]

i know about the face..would have to re-work it later ..
yeaahh he is really muscled..sorry..
i only used a mirore a reference :-) lol

[kellyv]

I have to agree with richpr, I think he's too muscular. It looks like he's starting to lose the concept of slave. What kind of slave are you trying to illustrate?

Other than that, I think it looks great though!

kelly

[MarkJTaylor]

I personally love the upper body. To me it suits the slave effect well. He's buff from doing chores, lifting rocks ect.

However the legs do throw me off a little. They seem a little too bulky for the slender muscular upper body. Other than that, he's looking brilliant :)

[xtrm3d]

here we go aagin.. :-)
last update befor the begining of the week end.. :-)
lightning based on a policarpo special radiosity light rigg...

ok..
just a quick and dirty ( really dirty ) deformation and motion designer test no weight map or joint compensation...

as i say,, really quick and dirty.. lol..
i changed some small thing in the proportion



as alway. comment, critique .. and encouragement .. more than welcome....


- MarkJTaylor ..
i changed the leg a bit .. to go more in the direction .. you talked about..

[MarkJTaylor]

Wow! he's looking most excellent! The legs look alot better now :)

I look very forward to seeing more of this guy. He's just too cool! Any chance of seeing who his 'master' is?

lol Judging by the sign on his chest, I'm guessing its you.

:D

[xtrm3d]

first of all thx for all encouragement and critique i am getting over mail and icq the last few day.. :-)




and here we go with the sunday night update..

some minor modelling fix, updated charachter rig.. but still not the final rig.. cause this one dont have weight map ...

and i managed to bend motion designer to my will ...
low poly proxy object for the dynamic simulation , and hi poly with hole and wrinkle for rendering.. MD rock !!!

i think that the next step woulde be ..the start of a better shading ..


and.. no..no.. i am not the master of this little boy..
he have a mistresse.. :-)
then now you know why is a big x on him ?? :-) lol

[facial deluxe]

Awesome stuff :D
Does MD ride spline for hairs ?

[xtrm3d]

no he dont.. ( at least that not worked really well for me )
but i would do a deformation low poly object .. and change it later for the haire spline object... that should work..

tu a vue la thread de strike a cg talk ?
michael roger pense que son dernier charachter serai du poser ..
interessant.. la faudrait suivre le developement de cette thread ..
tu me contact par icq ? j ai plus ton numero..
a+
chris

[facial deluxe]

Ma becane à ICQ est morte :(

Faudra attendre un peu...
Envoie moi un mail à olivier.jeannel@noos.fr