View Full Version : Will SE run on 64 bit XP ?
Tony R
01-04-2009, 02:25 PM
I am building a new system based around the Intel I7 chip with 6 GB of triple channel memory. I am installing XP 64 bit (or even Vista 64 bit but will have to strip it down to the bare services) because I want to utilize more than the 3GB 32bit memory max limit. Will SE run on 64 bit or do I have to leave it behind so I can run an editor that will.
Anyone have any suggestions for a 64bit editor? I was thinking about the Adobe CS4 production suite.
Tony
Lightwolf
01-04-2009, 02:46 PM
It will run on a 64-bit OS, but only as a 32-bit app (obviously).
Something I'd recommend anyhow. Editing doesn't rely as much on RAM as other tasks... and you'd also loose all 32-bit codecs when using a 64-bit app.
Afaik Vegas is the only 64-bit editor at the moment.
Cheers,
Mike
Edit: I'M using it both on XP 64 as well as Vista x64, with no difference. The only downside is that SE turns of Aero on Vista while it runs.
mvansomeren
01-04-2009, 03:09 PM
It's true it's only a 32bit ap and uses 32bit codecs. It runs just fine on my XP64, Quad core machine.
ScorpioProd
01-04-2009, 05:41 PM
Though it's true that a Windows XP 32-bit system won't use more than 4GB of addressing space, that does NOT mean you can't make use of more than that in a system with more physical RAM.
Check out what RAMDISK Plus can do:
http://www.superspeed.com/desktop/ramdisk.php
Just think how fast that extra RAM can be for a paging file, or other temporary file uses.
SpeedEDIT itself is 64-bit compatible, though it is a 32-bit application.
A true 64-bit application is going to require a separate executable, such as the 64-bit Vegas Pro 8.1 versus the 32-bit Vegas Pro 8.0c. And based on the issues with a lack of 64-bit capable codecs and plug-ins, if you read the Vegas forums, you will find a majority suggest staying with the 32-bit Vegas Pro 8.0c at this point.
A 64-bit program is only as good as all the supporting things that you need to be 64-bit compatible to work with it.
I'm looking to build a similar i7 based system with 6GB, and I still plan to use Windows XP 32-bit. And I would also get the RAMDISK Plus program.
rbartlett
01-04-2009, 07:08 PM
This RAMdisk is just about the fastest temp-file/scratch-pad/render-file drive that money can buy. You can use it with Windows managed memory but it makes more sense particularly in a 32bit system to use the RAMdisk where it has been assigned memory beyond Windows' reach.
SpeedEDIT does enjoy using the temporary area while you work. To my mind, I'd be happy to hold back from 64bit Windows for a while longer based on this RAMdisk tool's existence. It is nice to know that SE was one of the first XP x64 and Vista 64 apps to live comfortably inside.
As for NewTek's current 'full-scope' position, I'm not able to say whether the compiler options are already set to use more than 2GB or 3GB of Windows memory. 32bit apps can indeed use more if they wish, given the right host OS (such as a 64bit host). Many do not or have a job sitting comfortably bringing in codecs and 3rd party DLLs that haven't been written with the same 'future' in mind.
Codec wise, most Windows NLEs have some issues even if the host app has been rewritten to be natively 64bit with the full-scope of instruction-set, memory models etc. The grass isn't always greener, not even if it is a grass valley. :\
Lightwolf
01-04-2009, 07:12 PM
Just think how fast that extra RAM can be for a paging file, or other temporary file uses.
If the app is coded properly then temp files are held in RAM if there is enough of it.
Cheers,
Mike
KiloWatkins
01-05-2009, 09:57 AM
If the app is coded properly then temp files are held in RAM if there is enough of it.
Cheers,
Mike
This is a return to RAMdisk of Win98 Mike. I've been waiting for Richads evaluation, and now know what this will bring us. Check out the link of Eugenes find. But wasn't that step by step a way to circumvent buying this program, Eugene or Richard?
ScorpioProd
01-06-2009, 12:06 AM
No, it's the company website where you can download the trial or buy the program.
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