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[Jay Kelley]

Bob Tasha may yet write plugins so the Premiere Pro could support the VT[3]!!

The way to make this possible is to post that you would be seriously interested in purchaseing a plugin for Premiere Pro that would allow it to support Toaster RTVs in REAL TIME.

This would give us all color correction, 5.1 surround editing, DVD writing support, and loads more.

I am dropping my name in the hat Bob. Count me in if you decide to write these things.. I'll buy them!

We need more support... Let him know!

Jay

[SBowie]

Originally posted by Jay Kelley
Bob Tasha may yet write plugins so the Premiere Pro could support the VT[3]!! I salute your enthusiasm, and Bob's patient industriousness - but that's "Tasa" ;)

[KWeaver]

Bob, 4 immediate different individual purhases here.:)

[dml]

Make it five!

Matt Drabick

[Adrian@Stufish]

Six

I bought my VT principally to have a piece of solid harware to store my renders and let me make edits and put tham on tape and DVD.
VT interface gives me 10 times as much 'things' as I want.
Toaster Edit doesn't raally give me as friendly an offline editing interface as I would like.
Adobe's new DVD app looks promising, I use photoshop a for most of my titles and stuff anyway, and there is a lot to be said for the Adobe 'integrated' approach - we already run photoshop/imageready/golive & pagemaker.

[vini]

Me two ( for two vt3):)

[tmon]

Nine here. If for nothing else, the audio capabilities of PPro, but perhaps for MPEG2 output as well (tho I'm fine with TMPGEnc).

[Bobt]

So is the realtime feature set I had before good enough?

Bob

[technorev]

It just so happened that my staff asked me today about the Tasa plug-ins for VT3 and Premier Pro. Here's my vote and pledge for 5. And the sooner the better.

Technorev

[mzafrany]

I bought RebB plugins and will defenetly upgrade to Pro.

Moshe

[Jay Kelley]

I have it on a VERY reliable source that Bob T. Is in fact SERIOUSLY considering Plug-ins for Premiere Pro that will work with VT[3]!!

I can hope a time frame will be announced shortly.

I LOVE to be the bearer of great news and this news is FANTASTIC!!!

Jay

[Bobt]

Just to make this official I am now working on these
plugins. Timeline? Its a bit early but I dont
think the port will take as long as the original
RT version I created long ago.

Bob

[MediaSig]

AHHHHHHHHHHhhh!!!! {faints}


THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!


:D
Greg

[dml]

Bob, that's great news! Please keep us informed of your progress!

Matt Drabick,
DigiTek Systems (NewTek dealer)
Raleigh, NC

[tmon]

KAAAA-CHIINNNGGG!

[PIZAZZ]

sign us up for a few ourselves. I have several clients that would love the familiarity of Premiere on the VT hardware.

Thanks for the hard work BOB!

Jef Kethley
PIZAZZ
authorized Newtek Dealer
father, creator, and manufacturer of miniBOB
and now the miniBOB with DV!

[Videonut]

Count me in for another sale. I cut my teeth on Premiere. As much as I did not like some of the features, I got used to it. Having it interface with a solid piece of hardware is a delight.

Let us know when it will be ready.

[takabanana]

What does Premiere Pro give me over Premiere 6.0?

I would love to see VT hardware support for Pinnacle Edition.

[Bobt]

Premiere Pro is a total rerwrite. So its hard in an note
to say its just one thing. Its new multiple timeline structure
which you can combine into one master edit sequenece
is quite nice to have. Keeps long form organized.
Its ability to work with AAF is a big plus for Pro's.
The new audio handling is fantastic.
Vector wave form scope window. New single timeline
editing is actually real nice. Short cut keys you can define
is also cool. Color correction on steriods. Built in DVD creation or MPEG2 2 pass file creation from the timeline. Connections to Audition (their audio editor and After Effects quite cool)
I cant rememer all the stuff but its a lot and it handles
quite nicely.

All in all its has a lot of handy dandys that
were sorely needed to bring it up to snuff.
Does it have everything yet? No but its gotten quite
push in the right direction.

Bob

[MichaelBeck]

This discussion is interesting!

Here is what I want to know.

Right now I have Premiere Pro, After Effects... ect, and a Blackmagic Decklink SDI input card in my AMD XP +3000 system.

I want to move to a hefty Dual Xeon VT3 size PC.

Once there what would Premiere Pro lack when compared to the VT3. Besides the Live Switching and all the inputs that the SX8 gets me.

Say I mover to the Big Bad PC with just Premiere Pro.. what would adding a VT3 with a plug-in for Premiere pro do for Premiere?

Thanks!

[Adrian@Stufish]

As far as I know, realtime manipulation of multiple streams of UNCOMPRESSED video.
What you get out is exactly the same quality as your source material, whether you are mixing it live or playing back from your HDs.

[Bobt]

Hi,
You would get access to all the Newtek DVE's.
You would also get access to SoftFX (organic wipes)
in realtime.
You get access to Premiere's audio tools which usually
work in RT.

And mixed mode editing. AVI's that are DV compressed,
AVI's that are MJPEG compressed or uncompressed
YUV. Along with my intresting new format RTX which is
comressed DV video with uncompressed Alpha channel
with the plugin to AE incliuded. It offers the ablity to create
lower data rate overlays.

Of course you can gain access to all the Premiere plugins.

Bob

[Jay Kelley]

You can use all of Premiere's color correction abilities which are most likely going to be a big improvement working in 4:2:2

Jay

[JReble]

Speaking of Premiere plugins, does anyone know if previous plugins for premiere 5 & 6 are going to work with the Pro version or are we starting from scratch there as well?

[Bobt]

No the previous version does not work.
It cant. Premiere changed a lot inside the sdk for
the better. They added in a whole YUV pipeline
so I can work in native YUV space without haveing
to write around Premiere to do it. Also they altered
the way they kept time. Time is now kept in much smaller
durations to allow for audio editing down to a sample.
Also the new interface requires changes to the support
plugins.

Ok thats what has changed but a lot is similar, so its
not a start from scratch either.

I dont know if you guys recall but, the change between
version 5 to 6 was huge.

Going from a simple cuts only editor to realtime editing.
Going from supporting only RTV to supporting DV and
AVI - MJPEG and title/image overlays.
This was no small task. I also added in MotionFX,
SoftFX and EdgeFX.
All these things were major undertakings.
To do all this I had to write a lot of assembly code
(basically my own realtime engine) to provide realtime
performance.
Rember all, I am but one guy with a wfie 3 kids a dog,
house and full time gig.
Untill someone signs that big check :)

Now going from 6 to Premiere Pro is a port of the code
rather than a creation of that code. I need to bend some
things to make it fit and add somethings to make it better. :D
I am working day and night on all this. Pushing really hard
to get it out ASAP.

Bob


:p :p :p :)

[JReble]

Sorry, I think I didn't provide enough detail. In reference to your earlier statement; do the older video plugins for Premiere (like Hollywood FX, and Final FX) work with Premiere Pro?

Bob's been more than clear that his don't. What I'm wondering prior to considering a purchase of Premiere Pro, is if any of the extensive video & audio effects applications I already am using with Premiere will become useless on Premiere Pro. I'm thinkin they will be useless so I'm not really interested in Premiere Pro at present.

[Jay Kelley]

I would expect you will see upgrades to those plug-ins for Premiere Pro.. I can almost bet you will

Jay

[Bobt]

If you use Pro you will want to upgrade.
Its a much nicer way to edit. Audo is way cooler.
Take a while to get used to the new interface but
you will find once you do you can edit pretty quick
in it. The multiple timelines (sequences) is well worth
it.

I think, not sure, most older plugins will not work.
The new design just doesnt work the same.
Major changes to things like YUV support creates
this issue.

So updates would have to be purchased.

Bob

[sym@onevideo]

This has got to be the best news I've seen for a while :D
Bob please keep us all informed how things are progressing with the plug.
I know a few UK toaster users that will be very happy to get there hands on it.

Sym @ onevideo

Still waiting for T3 in the UK :confused: !!!!

[Lord Beowulf]

Hi Bob,

i need the plugin for Premiere Pro, too. Put me on the list. Bought the old one for 6.5 and loved it :)

And still wainting for VT[3] in Germany...

Is there a possibilty for remotecontrolling BetaSP machines over RS422 or the BreakoutBox SX-8 from within Premiere Pro??? If not you have to digitize footage with VT and then go to Premiere, but then you have no advantag of the rtx format...

Beo

[Bobt]

Hi guys,
Just checking back to read the thread..
The Port is moving along. Have RTV's DV files RTX etc
playing back with title overlays.

I am on to the cross dissolve transition.

After the cross dissolve and a filter functions
things move along steadily -vs- the current bumpy
ride I am on ;)

Bob

[Adrian@Stufish]

Hey Bob,
how do we send you a beer to keep you going?

[Bobt]

Hold the beer until I am done :cool:

Just get those check books ready when I complete em.:p

Bob

[Kurt_Henning]

9-30-2003 was the end of the $800 deal to get Premeir pro and Encore DVD direct from Adobe. Oh, and you got the latest version of After Effects and the sequel to Cool Edit PRo 2000 called Audition. So, 5.1 audio, compositing, and it runs on a laptop.

I welcome the day I can do this on the t3.

I have heard it was one of the busiest days in adobes history.

If this is true, I think a lot of toaster people will have a reason to support Bob and his work.

I think that that market may have suddenly exploded for Encore/Premier PRo. I think the next 30 days will be tellling.

Best to you Bob, this may have been the break you have been needing.

BTW, I will need a set of your plugs as well.

[ScorpioProd]

IF you needed AE, that was a great deal...

IF you don't, get the Pyro DV card with all the rest bundled for $499 still. :)

[dml]

It may still be possible to order the Adobe Video Collection which includes Premier Pro, Encore DVD, Audition and After Effects Standard for only $799.99. Please contact me at 919-790-5488 if you're interested.

Matt Drabick,
DigiTek Systems
Raleigh, NC

[Jay Kelley]

I would like to pay myself on the back.

It was I who started this thread.

It was I who told everyone that the new version of premiere would find a waiting audience in VT[3]

It was I who became Bob's largest pain the in the *** and spent weeks begging, pleading, and selling him on the idea of doing the plug-ins. (just ask him)

And it is now I who can rest because it looks like I was right and therefore I do not look like an idiot to all of YOU.

I've had a really hard week and needed to feel good about myself. So rather than look for warm fuzzies on this Friday, I thought I would make some for myself.

Jay Kelley

PS I had an episode with Newtek's customer service that went all the way up to Andrew Cross and the programmers last week.
I will fill you all in later but here is the bottom line: I was Newtek's biggest fan in lightwave, they have now made a believer out of me in VT

Andrew and everyone else.. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[Jay Kelley]

For those of you using VT[3] as your only sound card. You are in trouble if you want to use Premiere Pro:

As of right now Premiere Pro will not load if you are using VT[3] as your only sound source.

Adobe is aware of this, and they say they are working on it, but dropping a few hundred E-mails would not be a bad idea just to remind them.

It would be a bummer to get Bob's plugins and then find out a lot of you cannot even open Premiere Pro.

If you have another sound card in your machine then you will probably be ok. Swtich to that for using Premiere Pro and then back later if you wish.

Jay

[Bobt]

All I have is onboard audio. Premiere Pro came up just fine
with T3. So far I havent had any issue here.

Bob

[ScorpioProd]

Still, having audio supported on the same device would be nice...

[Bobt]

I will have to check this weekend. I am pretty sure the
audio works out the toaster. If thats what you mean.

bob

[Demon8]

Bob, I want to first thank you for being so creative with the invention of your plug-in. You're doing all of us VT3 & Premiere Pro editors a great service. Now for the big question "would it be posible to write a script that would allow Preiere Pro to have the Inherit feature that The Toaster has and/or being able to use the story board featue". Bob I know that you are busy man, so I'm just wondering if these features were posible. My boss and I are awaiting your plug-in to use in our production studio.

Thank you in advance for your hard work!!!

[Bobt]

Hi,
Thats not as trivial as you think.
This is way more than just moving clips into Premiere.

I am afraid the engineering effort would be too large and the
amount of restrictions I would have to place upon you
to many.

You can organize clips by icon and trim clips in Premiere
Pro's bins. Then place them on the timeline with a cross
dissolve between. Or leave them cuts only.
No storyboard but its already in there. And with the ability
to have multiple sequences this starts to look real
attractive.

Bob

[Adrian@Stufish]

Hey Bob, I have to work dual standard NTSC & PAL - sometimes having to output finished edits in both versions (argh). My Vt runs either/both happily. How do you think I'll fare with Premier?

My source material is all LW generated visualisations of designs (mainly big Rock'n Roll shows), and I sometimes render 720x576 with pixel proportion and motion set for about halfway between the 2 systems, then import the sequences twice - cropped for NTSC - and make 2 parallel edits.

[Bobt]

The pluigns will work in both formats
PAL and NTSC but it will not mix the formats
without rendering.

In other words you can work in PAL with PAL clips
or you can work in NTSC with NTSC clips.

This has not changed with any of my Premiere
plugins.

Bob

[Bobt]

Just an update as to where I am.

Adobes cross dissolve opacity and title overlays
are functioning again. These are the basics are
working again. So from here on out its basic
programming.

Bob

[sokhoeum]

Hello Bob,
You know I will buy your plug in again, coming soon?


Thanks,
Sokhoeum

[Bobt]

I dont want to jinx it but things are moving along
pretty well. A lot of time I spent on 6.5 has kind of paid
off in the Pro version.

Bob

[ScorpioProd]

So OK, what do I need to do audiowise to use both VT and Premiere Pro?

I do have on-board audio, but what do I have to do to not screw either NLE?

[Kurt_Henning]

I am a new premier pro user as well

I have noticed that PP does not recognize the Toaster as a audio output device. Furthermore, if my old AE 5.5 shows up on the toaster ntsc, I was kinda surprised that the t3 could not find PP as a computer generated resource.

I have owned various bundled version of Premeir for about 5 yyears but barely ever used it.

Today, just after using batch capture, I am sold on that module.

But not having anything but the on board audio is a drag, whereas with the Audition program, it works with toaster audio just fine.

So, whenever you want a beta check that will allow me to see premier on ntsc out of the toaster and route my audio to the toaster, let me know. I know that the tasa pugs are gonna do a lot, but if it would do that I would be very grateful.

Go Bob T

[Bobt]

Yep I can confirm this. BUMMER..
I have informed both parties to see
what can be done.

Bob

[Bobt]

FYI I just got to the audio section of the plugins.
FRIGGIN MURPHY..

Anyway I will continue in another direction until then.

Bob

[Bobt]

Hey the weekend went too fast.
What is Bob up to? Trying to figure out how to get
audio out of the toaster. Man I didnt think I would get
stuck here. There are a couple of ways to do it.
But I havent figured out which would be best.

So currently I am stuck in the muck.

Bob

[Demon8]

Hey Bob,

I had Adobe on the phone about this issue with the VT3 and Premiere Pro Audio. They said that they were working with Newtek on this. How true it is I don't know, but what the work around they gave me was to install a sound card in my toaster machine, then open control panel, go to sound and audio devices, then select that sound I installed. So my PPro opens and plays now I just haveto see how VT3 is going to act now. I'll post something later after I try it.

P.S. Don't buy a cheap card are you will be sorry!!!!

[Bobt]

I have not heard this from my inside contacts at Adobe
or Newtek. I am going to work around this its just not
that easy.
My no $ workaround was to enable my onboard
audio for now.

Bob

[Demon8]

Is the mainconcept the same one that comes in Premiere Pro, the same one that's needed for Bob's plugin?

[Bobt]

I can now answer this question with some confidence.
Yes it is.
I just had my main hard disk crash last week on Thursday.
I was able to recover this weekend (cost a bunch of time
but I now have a nice new 80GB hard drive for my system)
And when I rebuilt my system I tried my plugins out without
loading the Mainconcept codec. I worked. So I can say
you dont need the mainconcept codec if you have Premiere
Pro on your system.

Bob

[Bobt]

Just an FYI. I lost this weekend because of my disk crash.
That was expensive timewise as I only get the weekends
to spend any serious time in front of the toaster.
I am currently working on enabling the audio for Premiere
Pro. Just to let you know.

Bob

[cmcvideo]

Premiere 6.5 plug-in was great. Can't wait for Premiere Pro. Bob keep up the great work. We all appreciate it.

[Lord Beowulf]

@ Bob

Hope you get the plugin to work, soon.
I need it! :)

[MediaSig]

Adobe.com has a try out version of Premiere Pro available on their site...I just downloaded and spent some time playing with it...and all I can say is....


WHOA!!! NICE!!!


Go BOB Go!! Can't wait 'til the plug-ins are DONE!!!

;)

Greg

[eon5]

Just read that our friends at Adobe will have what they're calling an "enhancement upgrade" available next month that fixes the EDL import/export issue.

Pasting in from Bob Turner's Video Systems e-newsletter...


Can Premiere Pro import as well as export an EDL?

Not currently.
However, we are planning to release an "enhancement" update probably in October that will provide EDL import and export functionality.

--> The plugin works in any PPro "enhancement" updates?

[Bobt]

The plugins do not have much to do with enhancements
like that. I will send out an email to see if anything has
changed but when it comes to nuts and bolts I doubt much
has.

Bob

[rzick]

I know I'm going to sound naive, but I have never used Bob's plugins so far, although we own both T3 and Premier Pro.

Do these plugins allow you to work inside of Premier with the same realtime editing functionality that you get with TED? But with the added feature set of Premier?

Any comments?


Rob Zick
WTBTS

[Jay Kelley]

I am sad to say that I do not believe we get real-time in Premiere.. BUT I am hopeful that we may get NEAR real time. We will know once Bob gets a few betas out there...

Jay

[ScorpioProd]

I think you're wrong Jay.

Bob's plug-ins for Premiere have ALWAYS been real-time through Toaster. I can't imagine this changing with Premiere Pro.

[Bobt]

Well I think what Jay means is native Premiere Pro
like its color correction wont be realtime.
I have my own set of things that are realtime and will
remain that way.
At least I hope thats what he means.

Bob

[Vlado]

Hi,

are there any news on PremierePro VT3 plugin development?

Vlado
AVI STUDIO

[Jay Kelley]

To respond to your question.. I have heard very little on the Premiere Plugins. I have noticed that Bob seems to be focusing on Plug-ins for Toaster Edit which is very dissappointing. So far my math of people on this forum plus others I know personally have over 200 requests for the premiere/toaster plug in. Hopefully Bob will see fit to completeing these in the near future.. There's no doubt this is a wonderful opportunity.

Jay

[INOV8Pro]

Bob:

I just ordered the Adobe Video Professional Collection. I would love to have the pluggins for the VT3. You have an order here!!!

Paul
INOV8 Productions, Inc.

[fozzillo]

A am a reseller, I stopped proposing VT3 to costumers who need pure editing.
VT-edit is good but not enough for pure editing.
I sell VT3 just if they need live, or anything else but EDITING.
Premiere Pro plugin would solve this problem.

[Jovi]

Bob:

I just ordered the Adobe Video Professional Collection. When are you goig to be ready? You have another order here!

Jovi

[smclaugh5]

Do I have to be running VT(3) on a XP Pro platform?

Steve McLaughlin

[Bobt]

To run PPro you do.

Bob

[jackz]

Hey Bob

I was just wondering how the Premiere Pro project is going?
I used yor Premiere Plugins for VT2 awhile ago.

I have since upgraded to VT3 and recently to Premiere PRO.

I'll jump back on your bandwagon and say whenever you have something working I'll buy it.

VR
Jack Zabawa
VideoKahuna

[gybp]

ok but can i import rtv files intro premiere pro without this plugin???? thx in advance

[Jay Kelley]

Without Bob's Plugins there is NO way for Toaster and Premiere Pro to work together

Jay

[JReble]

I'm gonna assume you can't use any effects or realtime features of the toaster board in Premiere Pro, but you can at least load toaster timelines into Premiere Pro via the avi wrapper can't you?

[Jay Kelley]

There is currently a conflict between Premiere Pro and the Toaster IF you are useing the toaster's sound card. Premiere Pro will not load if Toaster's Sound Card is being used.

This problem is over one year old. The wisdom at Newtek is that they do not wish to fix and or support this problem. The same goes for Adobe.

Our only chance at this point is that Bob Tasha is currently writing Plug-ins for Premiere Pro and Toaster that will answer both the audio and video side of the problem.

I used his Plug-Ins for Premiere 6.5 and they were flawless. The main sticky point here is the wait. Bob has ZERO idea when they will be completed. So far the wait has been over 10 months since he decided to do them. A short talk with him about 2 weeks ago let me know that these plugins now occupy 100% of his attention when not dealing with work or family. I would ask him more but the simple truth is that he is sick to death of hearing from me.

In his defense, he is spending most of his time, NOT writing a cool plugin with lots of features, but picking up the Sh*t that neither Newtek or Adobe do not wish to fix themselves.

Hopefully we will get some sort of progress report from Bob when he feels there is a visiable light at the end of the tunnel. Until then it's just a very slow waiting game.

Jay

[robewil]

Originally posted by Jay Kelley
In his defense, he is spending most of his time, NOT writing a cool plugin with lots of features, but picking up the Sh*t that neither Newtek or Adobe do not wish to fix themselves Not that it wouldn't be a good idea to have Adobe work with VT3, but in Newtek's defense, this was never a promised feature so there is nothing for Newtek or Adobe to "fix".

[Jay Kelley]

If you review the various threads on this subject, you will see that many Newtek customers have asked for this feature. It has been and continues to be Newtek's choice to ignore this request.

Adobe provides the various vendors with the code nessesary to support Adobe Premiere Pro, you will find that in most cases NO COMPANY promises that they will support Premiere. They simply do because of customer demand.

I do acknowlege that Newtek has it's own editing software so it's not like we cannot edit. It is simply a request customers have made because Premiere is so widely popular.

I myself LOVE audition as I do mostly feature film work. So to be able to work uncompressed in Premiere and then in all the software that goes with it would be a wonderful thing.

Jay

[JReble]

I'm aware of the Premiere Pro install issue where it doesn't install if all it sees is the Toaster board as the audio card. I understand this is easily solved by popping a soundblaster or something into the machine long enough to install Premiere Pro. I'm given to understand that you can use Premiere Pro normally with or without the soundblaster after that. Presumably, this should include using any avi files like those produced with the avi wrapper in the Toaster.

I'm not sure how any plugins Bob can create are going to address that installation issue with Premiere's software. Sure they should add some ties to toaster effects etc., but still I'm pretty sure you can use Premiere Pro at least on it's own and in concert with the avi wrapper now.

P.S. Did Bob ever make Premiere plugins that were fully functional with Premiere 6.0 - 6.5 and Toaster 2/3? I purchased his Premiere plugins for Toaster 2 and they never were completely fully functional in that they never supported true NTSC resolution of 720 x 486 and the preview windows in Premiere did not display consistently. If I wanted to use Premiere at all I had to capture everything at 720 x 480 as the plugins I have didn't fully mesh with Toaster 2. Maybe I missed an update somewhere??

[Jay Kelley]

Premiere will never work with the Toaster Sound in it's current form. You will have to stay with the soundblaster to use the toaster.

As for the AVI wrapper.. Honestly I have not tried it. However I can tell you that Premiere in it's native form was designed for MiniDV. It does NOT handle uncompressed well at all.

Bob's plugins are actually programming that fixes these issues at their core. Also he completely redoes Premiere's media section in such a way that it can handle the RTV files in real-time. It's really quite impressive what he is able to get Premiere to do with Toaster.

This is all I know. You may want to E-mail him yourself and check in with him on the status of the plugins.. If I do I could find a laptop stuffed down my throat.

Jay

[Paul Lara]

Originally posted by Jay Kelley
...many Newtek customers have asked for this feature. It has been and continues to be Newtek's choice to ignore this request.


Jay,
It's not quite the case that NewTek is ignoring your request. There are many, many cool features in planning, and every single one of them has to be prioritized. We hear you, and we want you to to be thrilled with your VT[3] system. Please be patient.

[Jay Kelley]

Means a lot to have someone notice me. As I said earlier, it's not like you haven't given us an editing system. And for certain people it will work just fine. I am simply one of those people who can make use of Premiere Pro's abilities in a specific way and I desparately need it. (From these forums there seems to be quite a few people with my needs).

As for being Patient... I wish I could. Problem is I HAVE to assume that Newtek is not interested in supporting Premiere simply because I know nothing else (And it's been almost a year since Premiere Pro came out).

I would LOVE to be patient, if I knew what I was being Patient for!!! :)

Care to give me just a hint?

Jay

PS thanks again.. Nice to be heard. I guess I can shut up now huh?

[Jay Kelley]

So you know.. Some of my E-mails may sound a little negative or insulting.. Truth is that they are very backhanded compliments.

See, you guys would have made my life a WHOLE lot easier if you could have designed a crappy system. Then I would have bought something that supported Preimere and left you cold, but as you know, I am unable to find Toaster's equal.

Completely real time, completely uncompressed. SDI input and output (Although I gotta tell you... That SDI thing where you cannot hear the audio UNTIL you are recording... Sucks big time)

I can actually pull up DFX+ work on my stuff and use the waveform and vectorscope of the toaster AT THE SAME TIME.

No... I am really really stuck with you people. And I am convinced the day I can make use of Adobe's Sound and Editing software I will have the most complete package you can buy.

I mean this, I KNOW my income in this industry will jump once this happens.

This is the reason I keep complaining.. I simply have no where else to go, and there is nothing else I can do.

You are not giving me what I need, but you're still better than anything else.

Jay

[ScorpioProd]

Well, yeah, Premiere Pro has been out a year, but even one of their hardware partners, Canopus, has VERY buggy driver support. Don't think making this work with ANY hardware is an easy thing in the least. I've heard a number of bad things about their SDK.

As for Bob's previous Premiere plug-ins, as a beta tester of them, I can definately say they worked perfectly fine and in real-time. As far as I remember, 486 line RTVs were fine too, but other than testing I wouldn't have used them much since 480 lines is my normal format.

[Jay Kelley]

I did use the 486 lines with Bob's plugins.. Flawless..

Jay

[Bobt]

In case anyone is wondering I am following the thread closely and
there isnt anything I can say yet except I am spending all my
development dime on Premiere now. I have held off
on other things till the plugs are beta ready.

Bob

[PIZAZZ]

Originally posted by Bobt
In case anyone is wondering I am following the thread closely and
there isnt anything I can say yet except I am spending all my
development dime on Premiere now. I have held off
on other things till the plugs are beta ready.

Bob

You go BOB!! can't wait to see what you come up with.

[jbcaro]

Glad to hear that the fix is in the works Bob. Understand that this takes time and am glad that you are there to do these things for us. My checkbook is ready as I imagine are many others. Keep up the great work.

John C.