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jin choung
11-17-2008, 01:56 AM
wow... i TOTALLY MISSED THE HYPE on this game... but just having heard what it's about, gotta say, i'm EXCITED!

basically, there are 5 different scenarios that are basically just "mini situations"... but they're all situations very recognizable from zombie movies.

- gotta get to the roof of a hospital to get rescued by helicopter
- you're stuck on the roofs as the streets are overrun by zombies but you have to make your way to a different building
etc...

you have 3 people in your group (4 altogether) and they are AI controlled or co-op play through the net (awesome idea cuz sometimes i just want to play without dealing with jr. high school kids).

and you could also play as one of 4 zombie "bosses" (so at max i think it's 8 people playing in one game)... being a zombie, you have no guns and you're vulnerable but the cool thing is, you can see in the dark and you can always see exactly where the good guys are... so you can setup for a good scary ambush!
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just lots of good ideas too... you have a bunch of prescripted things you can say to other players but they're all in the voices of the voice actors... you don't actually say things yourself... again, great for keeping the jr. high school kids from mucking up the experience.

also, for me it's kinda DISCONCERTING to all of a sudden have someone talking to you through their headset! i played team fortress 2 briefly but one time, when i got lost, this guy - perfectly nice guy - started telling me where to go and stuff and it just felt kinda weird. i don't have a mic myself so all i could do jump around and hope he took that as an acknowledgment.

anyhoo, looks fun. maybe i'll see some of you on the servers if i decide to get it. it releases on the 18th nov.

jin

zapper1998
11-17-2008, 02:05 AM
sounds pretty cool...
i will check it out..

jin choung
11-17-2008, 03:28 AM
haha,

so i guess there are 4 scenarios and they caught on to how everyone was saying it was "cinematic"....

so they released these movie style posters of the each scenario with a movie tagline and everything.

http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x?gallery=11009&game_id=4084&id=128318#img128318

neat!

jin

p.s. hahahahahaha, ummmm... just so it's clear, i'm NOT an employee of valve, ea or turtlerock studios... it just looks really cool!

Matt
11-17-2008, 03:47 AM
Graphics look a bit dated, and I've learned my lesson when it comes to games on the PC, NEVER buy until you try.

All these consoles around have ruined PC games, as developers are just doing lazy ports.

jin choung
11-17-2008, 03:58 AM
yeah graphics do indeed look dated.

it's the halflife2 source engine so yeah absolutely.

but as for the "cheap port" thing... valve doesn't do pc half-assed so i wouldn't worry about that. if anything, the xbox will be the compromised version.... though i'm certain both will be done right.

jin

Matt
11-17-2008, 04:11 AM
yeah graphics do indeed look dated.

That's the bit that puts me off, nothing worse than seeing really pixelated texutres and boxy poly objects.

But if the gameplay is good enough I might be able to forgive it. Far Cry 2 had decent(ish) graphics, but the gameplay is AWFUL, I've played it twice since I bought it a week or two ago. Doubt I will again, utter tripe.

Korvar
11-17-2008, 04:54 AM
If you have steam, you may still be able to get the Left4Dead demo, and have a try yourself (it was time-limited for me, and I can't remember when that would have run out).

I tried the Demo, and it was great fun, very frenetic, and definitely felt like a Zombie Movie to me.

Matt
11-17-2008, 05:06 AM
Gonna try tonight! I like Zombie stuff!

IMI
11-17-2008, 05:40 AM
Let me know what you think about the game, Jin. I'm always up for new games.

I'd ask Matt, but he doesn't like any of the games I like, and seems to be hung up on controls for some reason. ;)

I still have yet to complete all my recent purchases - Far Cry 2, Crysis Warhead, STALKER:Clear Sky, and Fallout 3... but I could easily enough add another to that list. ;)

Matt
11-17-2008, 05:51 AM
I take it you can link up on Steam for a 4up meatfest then?

That might be fun! LWers taking on the undead!

Gonna need your Skype / Steam IDs so we can coordinate some Zombie murdering action!

:D

Matt
11-17-2008, 05:52 AM
I'd ask Matt, but he doesn't like any of the games I like, and seems to be hung up on controls for some reason. ;)

That was just Far Cry 2, I've come to like Dead Space!

IMI
11-17-2008, 06:14 AM
That was just Far Cry 2, I've come to like Dead Space!

Just messing with you, man. :)

Matt
11-17-2008, 06:26 AM
Just messing with you, man. :)

Not as much as when I do this to you! ;)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GotNTtt1NNQ

:D

(Love the guy commenting! "You left me out there to die")

IMI
11-17-2008, 06:32 AM
Not as much as when I do this to you! ;)



yeah, well, maybe we'll see. ;)

Pretty cool vid though.

Matt
11-17-2008, 06:35 AM
yeah, well, maybe we'll see. ;)

Pretty cool vid though.

This guys is pretty funny actually, here's another moment from him!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ADYTK2d6I

safetyman
11-17-2008, 07:06 AM
I've played the demo -- the gameplay is fast-paced and very intense. The game randomizes the gameplay based on the abilities of your team to keep it fair. On expert mode we were constantly overrun by hordes of quick zombies. And when the "Tank" zombie shows up -- run. :)

I will definitely buy this game -- Counter Strike may be finally hitting the skids after 5 years.

Matt
11-17-2008, 07:57 AM
Oh hell yeah! :D

Just had a quick blast on the demo! Sold. I'm in! Who's with me! :)

My steam ID is:
DeadlyAvenger

What's everyone else's?

axaboss
11-17-2008, 08:15 AM
I've already played this game 10 or 20 times, even in co-op. Its exciting and different every time you play it. It has an AI director that randomizes the zombies and super zombies every time you start a new game. Even the weapons locations are randomized every time. I've already have 5 of my buddies buying this game. Its great fun.

Matt
11-17-2008, 08:37 AM
Have created a Steam Group for this, I need some ID's to invite people!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Dead_Ringers

IMI
11-17-2008, 08:46 AM
Have created a Steam Group for this, I need some ID's to invite people!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Dead_Ringers

Why not "Light_Wavers"? :D

I'll let you know if I decide to buy the game - I'd hate to deprive you of the chance to make good on your earlier threat. ;)

Matt
11-17-2008, 08:50 AM
Why not "Light_Wavers"? :D

I'll let you know if I decide to buy the game - I'd hate to deprive you of the chance to make good on your earlier threat. ;)

You mean running away leaving you to fight a horde of Zombies! :D

Never, I'm with ya 'til the end! Streaming as my bowels are torn out!

:D

IMI
11-17-2008, 09:50 AM
You mean running away leaving you to fight a horde of Zombies! :D

Never, I'm with ya 'til the end! Streaming as my bowels are torn out!

:D

Sounds good to me!


Heh. Speaking of gaming, I found this (attached) picture in my Eudora email "Attach" folder. I have no idea where it came from and I don't remember ever seeing it before, but it's pretty funny. ;)

Matt
11-17-2008, 10:15 AM
Sounds good to me!


Heh. Speaking of gaming, I found this (attached) picture in my Eudora email "Attach" folder. I have no idea where it came from and I don't remember ever seeing it before, but it's pretty funny. ;)

Hey that's me!

So, thing is, the game ain't out in the UK yet (21st) so can I still join servers using the demo if others have the full game?

JeffrySG
11-17-2008, 10:46 AM
I saw on Steam that I had this demo but I didn't know what it was so I just left it there. Maybe I'll have to give it a try. I actually just started playing TeamFortress2. I really like the team play on it so I think I'll be sticking with that for a while. I found one good server that usually has a good group of people - probably a little older than your typical 5th graders blasting out obscenities the whole time - that actually try to use some strategy.

How does online play go with people from overseas? is it too slow?

Castius
11-17-2008, 10:59 AM
I'm in! We have been playing the demo alot. Can't wait till it's out.

Steam ID "Castius"

Matt
11-17-2008, 12:20 PM
Come on Jin, you started this, what's ya Steam ID! :)

jin choung
11-17-2008, 12:23 PM
i think it's 'jinchoung' or 'jin choung'... probably without the space.

wooooooooooooooooooooooooo

jin

JeffrySG
11-17-2008, 12:28 PM
Feel free to add me too, I'll try to get the demo...

steam id: The_Goog

Matt
11-17-2008, 01:04 PM
i think it's 'jinchoung' or 'jin choung'... probably without the space.

wooooooooooooooooooooooooo

jin

Added, was without space.

You too Jeff and Castius!

Matt
11-17-2008, 01:09 PM
Does anyone have any experience with FRAPS.

I bought it a while ago, worked fine. But now, I can't get it to record any sound, tried both ways to record, 'Detect Best Sound Input' and 'Use Windows Input', neither are working.

My sound card is a Terratec DMX6/Fire 24.

IMI
11-17-2008, 01:11 PM
I have the demo downloading/installing now. I hadn't even noticed it was in my Steam games list. Probably won't be able to play til much later tonight or tomorrow morning though.

Steam name: TheObliviator
Yes, I lack imagination in usernames. ;)

IMI
11-17-2008, 01:14 PM
Does anyone have any experience with FRAPS.

I bought it a while ago, worked fine. But now, I can't get it to record any sound, tried both ways to record, 'Detect Best Sound Input' and 'Use Windows Input', neither are working.

My sound card is a Terratec DMX6/Fire 24.

I've used the same settings and it works fine - and I've been using FRAPS for a good while now, with several different machines - about since it came out - I have some great Far Cry 2 footage, but you wouldn't want to see that. ;)

No suggestions though - sorry. :(

Matt
11-17-2008, 04:00 PM
LOL, Jeff and I just had a ball!

Seriously cool fun! Need to get some more LW'ers in there, team up and work together, much more fun than team mates who run off and attract hordes of zombies!

Best bit - I shot one of those fat smoker things near Jeff, when you kill them they attract a mass riot of zombies, they all piled on him!

Had to save him!

He saved me a few times too!

JeffrySG
11-17-2008, 04:12 PM
Added, was without space.

You too Jeff and Castius!

OK, Matt! that was pretty friggin' cool! We def. need to work up a team... :D

I think you did a little more saving than I did! hahaha

But we both did a bunch of shooting each other too! :D

And for all of the MAC users out there, I'm playing on my mac in bootcamp and it plays fine!

Matt
11-17-2008, 05:02 PM
But we both did a bunch of shooting each other too! :D

Yes, I distinctly remember shooting through a bunch of zombies trying to kill me and shot you while I was at it! I think you were trying to save me too!

Unintentional of course!

:D

warrenwc
11-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Preordered the game after the first time through the demo.
LOVE killing zombies BUT, when the full game comes out-we'll be able to play as Boss-zombies.
Can't wait.
Warrenwc is my steam ID.
KILLKILLKILLKILL(wish we had smileys working)

JeffrySG
11-17-2008, 06:12 PM
So did anyone else actually purchase the game yet? I see that you get 10% off if you purchase before it's released which means in the next few hours.

And yes Matt that was funny. I was running over to help you and then got shot right as I got there! Hahahaha. Oh well.

The game will be A lot better once we can develop a little team strategy.

Matt
11-17-2008, 06:29 PM
Damn it! Why won't FRAPS record sound, it works if I record iTunes with the visualiser going (using stereo mix).

But it won't record in this game!!! Grrrrrrr!

IMI
11-17-2008, 07:15 PM
Oh man!
I had to go out for a while but I just got back and tried out the single player game (demo) for about a half hour. Talk about chaotic! I don't know what to do though - is there a mission or a goal? Or is it just to get from point A to point B and don't die along the way?

I suspect the real fun of this is in the online team play though, which I don't really have the time to check out now.

Seems pretty cool though!

Matt
11-17-2008, 07:43 PM
There are several scenarios, you have to get to the end of each one, as a team, without dying too much!

This game is ALL about co-op play, not as much fun on single player. You need a good team though, a team with a game plan, who actually react to what's going on, taking up point, healing each other, ambushing bosses etc.

Even better if you know the people, then you can chat over mic and have a laugh while playing. It's great when funny stuff happens to team members!

I finally got FRAPS recording sound, so hopefully we can Youtube some of the funnier moments!

IMI
11-17-2008, 08:03 PM
I was just gonna say, I got a pretty good FRAPS recording of about 20 seconds of the game, complete with stereo sound.
Took it down from a 395 MB .avi file to a 40 MB QT movie. Nothing special though, or I'd upload it. Glad to hear you got FRAPS cooperating!

Matt
11-17-2008, 08:20 PM
Oh when it works I get really decent FRAPS recordings!

If you ever have this issue, re-install your drivers, if your sound card comes with it's own Control Panel, make sure you set 'Stereo Mix' using that and not the Windows one.

And just to make sure, run FRAPS before the game.

That seemed to work for me, although as I said, I had it working before, but when it came to this game it stopped again.

I hope I don't have to re-install the drivers to reset everything every time I want to record!

Matt
11-17-2008, 08:30 PM
Whoohoo! Purchased through Steam and pre-loaded (ready to be unlocked) can't wait!

BigHache
11-17-2008, 09:06 PM
This game is a hoot. I started playing the demo as soon as it was available.

Would like to get in on some coop but I can't say that I'll be droppin dough on this right away.

Only 3.9 hours left of demo time!

IMI
11-17-2008, 09:08 PM
I haven't bought it yet, not sure if I'm going to. Truth be told, I really prefer SP games with a goal and a story line. The only online game I ever really got into was CoD 4, but even there I lost interest shortly.

Might change my mind after the holidays though when I can have the time. Right now I don't need any more distractions. ;)

safetyman
11-18-2008, 06:47 AM
I bought it and preloaded it last nite. I hope to shoot zombies this evening -- or bowl survivors over like bowling pins as the Tank! My handle is ]TP[ SAFETYMAN -MEATY- for those of you who wanna find me.

Matt
11-18-2008, 04:39 PM
WHOOHOOO!!!

We just had a GREAT laugh on this game! Myself, Doggy Dan, Bog and Dak!

Totally awesome game play!

JeffrySG
11-18-2008, 04:52 PM
That was friggin' great! I'm glad I caught you guys for a few rounds anyway! :D

Matt
11-18-2008, 05:15 PM
I soooo need to get a mic, it was hilarious listening to Mark!

Matt
11-18-2008, 05:41 PM
Some exploits from tonight's gathering!

Mark advises us what to do when entering an office!

Matt
11-18-2008, 05:44 PM
Dan, Dak and I found time for target practise!

Matt
11-18-2008, 05:50 PM
Not my most glorious moment! This happened ... a lot! :D

JeffrySG
11-18-2008, 05:51 PM
I'll have to watch those vids later tonight!

Are guys talking on skype or on team chat? The next time we are on together you have to let me know how my sound quality is from the mic?

Matt
11-18-2008, 06:01 PM
When faced with a screaming horde of Zombies trying to eat your face off, should you?

a) Pull out your medpack and wave it at them

b) Take time to reload your weapon

c) Both!

Not the best strategy I've had!

To top it, Mark tells me off for "keeping them all for myself!"

LOL!

Note: The spectacular headshot while saving Dak just after! And the Hunter zombie about to take chunks out of Dan at the end! :D (Yep, I saved him!)

Matt
11-18-2008, 06:05 PM
I'll have to watch those vids later tonight!

Are guys talking on skype or on team chat? The next time we are on together you have to let me know how my sound quality is from the mic?

Mark was using the in-build team chat, everyone else was just team messaging. All on mic would be great fun though!

JeffrySG
11-18-2008, 09:07 PM
Those videos were prety cool! :)

Did you play the level at the hospital yet? I just played it and we got to the end where the heli picks you up and we kept on getting killed with only a few minutes left. After the third or fourth time I had to be going. But it really does help to have mics. Two of us did and it made it much more efficient.

Stooch
11-18-2008, 09:17 PM
im playing fallout 3 right now. but ill give L4D a try eventually.

JeffrySG
11-18-2008, 09:33 PM
I didn't think I'd actually like the game but after playing the demo I really liked the way they have set up the co-op playing. It's really a great mix of shoot em up and team play. If you can't keep your team of four intact you probably won't survive the level.

Oh yeah I forgot. On that hospital level at the end I was on a rooftop and one of those huge guys - the tanks. Hit me and I flew about 50 ft. Down onto the ground and died instantly. :D

jasonwestmas
11-18-2008, 10:12 PM
It's got pretty amazing game play imo. The most amazing thing about it is the performance and all those baddies on screen at once without loosing too much texture quality. I think it's really cool that I can survive a 24 zombie attack if I try hard enough lol. . .how they swarm all over you and stuff while you bash them with your weapon and continue shooting.

I think realistically speaking it looks better than HL2 actually even though it's cliche. That doesn't mean the game play isn't innovative, it definately is! I've got Zombie fans for friends, so I had to try it ;) Oh and it's great fun to be forced work together as a team!! I was tired of freeforall sniper games, blah:P

Matt
11-18-2008, 10:32 PM
Oh and it's great fun to be forced work together as a team!! I was tired of freeforall sniper games, blah:P

Me too, love it!

jin choung
11-18-2008, 10:44 PM
hey guys,

thanks for the invites. i got them after i got home from work! what time zone are you fellows in?

i think you guys may be a few hours ahead of me. and i can't really get down to gaming until near midnight....

oh well, try to catch up maybe on the weekends...

i tried the game solo last night and it's not quite as fun as you guys are describing with multiplayer (understandably) but it's still remarkable that the ai can keep up. dang and what the heck, my left hand "clawed" up on the WASD keys.... i'm getting soft from my quake 3 days....

jin

Matt
11-19-2008, 03:22 AM
hey guys,

thanks for the invites. i got them after i got home from work! what time zone are you fellows in?

i think you guys may be a few hours ahead of me. and i can't really get down to gaming until near midnight....

oh well, try to catch up maybe on the weekends...

I'm GMT 0.

But yeah, this weekend is definitely gonna have to happen! If we can arrange a rough time when everyone can be online, then we can just find each other.

On a different note, does anyone know if it's possible to record using FRAPS the in-game sounds AND your own mic speech? (Other peoples mic's come through as part of the game sounds so they get picked up).

I was fiddling around with it but could only make one or the other work.

Is there a soundcard / headset combo that will allow this?

I really want to record some of these team ups but with the speech, makes it much more fun!

Interestingly, after we played and I recorded some matches, when I tried again later I couldn't get FRAPS to record sound again! I think I need a new sound card.

Was thinking of this one (http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=879869&Product=Creative+X-Fi+Titanium+Fatal1ty+Champion+Soundcard+PCI-E+), anyone have it? Any good? (Shame it has all that Fata1ity crap all over it though)

JeffrySG
11-19-2008, 07:11 AM
I'm US eastern so I think that is GMT -5.

Matt I personally don't have any info on sound cards at all. I never even heard of FRAPS until you talked about it here. ( silly mac user you know)

DogBoy
11-19-2008, 11:15 AM
Matt, Bog and Jeff, that was a hella lot of fun. We should definitely do that again.
I couldn't look at the offices this morning without seeing all the office clones as the shambling hoards (thanks Bog, for making me nearly wet myself on that one).

IMI
11-19-2008, 12:16 PM
I played the demo several times over. Very much fun! - I can only imagine what the online play is like.

The AI *is* impressive, and some of those sounds the zombies make... creepy.

I turned the film grain off and all the other setting up to maximum. AT 1920x1200 I get about 60 FPS, and it looks alot better, IMO, than the default settings.

Anyway, after the holidays I'll have more time and I'll buy it then. I hope you guys haven't gotten sick of it by then. :)

Matt
11-19-2008, 12:19 PM
Dadnamit! WHY is FRAPS playing up again? It was working the other night, now it's decided not to record sound again!

I'm clueless as to what the issue is!

IMI
11-19-2008, 12:25 PM
Couldn't tell you, Matt - I've never had any issues with it not recording sound.

JeffrySG
11-19-2008, 12:30 PM
I turned the film grain off and all the other setting up to maximum. AT 1920x1200 I get about 60 FPS, and it looks alot better, IMO, than the default settings.

Oh, I'll have to try to turn off the grain... I've been running at 1280 wide with the film grain, maybe I'll see what type of frame rate I get at 1920 with it off. I always assume my vid card can't handle it but we'll see.

And yes, I think half the fun of it is playing with three other people...! :D

Matt
11-19-2008, 01:29 PM
Well, did a Google search and found ZD Soft's 'Game Recorder'. Which I've just bought.

Have to say, I wish I knew about this before! It's WAY better than FRAPS from what I can see (have done some tests). It seems much lighter on system resources and has MANY more options for encoding.

I suggest anyone having issues with FRAPS to check it out:

http://www.zdsoft.com/game-recorder/

Here's the feature list comparison:

http://www.zdsoft.com/game-recorder/comparison.html

Thomas M.
11-19-2008, 01:40 PM
Anybody COD5 yet? Just wonder whether it's worth buying or just a disappointment?

Matt
11-19-2008, 01:42 PM
Anybody COD5 yet? Just wonder whether it's worth buying or just a disappointment?

There's a Call of Duty 5? Not another FPS game I'll end up buying! :D

Actually, I'm good with Left 4 Dead for a while I reckon!

Matt
11-19-2008, 01:49 PM
LOL, just seen the "Bonus" mode in Call of Duty World at War, it has zombies! :D

JeffrySG
11-19-2008, 04:11 PM
Well finally got through the entire first level (all parts) online with people. It took us two times to make it to the helicopter but we made it in the end. :)

jin choung
11-20-2008, 01:08 AM
http://www.clutchkills.com/tips/left-4-dead-strategy-guide-and-tweaks/

in case anyone else is irritated by a seeming mouse lag... or i guess not lag so much as a very slight inertia...

bugging the f out of me. but the above guide helps A LOT. still not perfectly dead, spot on like quake 3 or unreal tournaments but it helps a lot.

jin

axaboss
11-21-2008, 05:57 PM
http://www.clutchkills.com/tips/left-4-dead-strategy-guide-and-tweaks/


Great tips on that site! Thanks, Jin.

Intuition
11-23-2008, 03:54 PM
Man, Jin, you thought you were outta touch. I only saw it a day ago. Very cool game though. I only played it a couple of times but.... I really dig it alot.

jin choung
11-23-2008, 11:27 PM
Man, Jin, you thought you were outta touch. I only saw it a day ago. Very cool game though. I only played it a couple of times but.... I really dig it alot.

yeah, just finished it on solo! that last scenario gets HAAAAAARD!

very very very "cinematic".... they use it in their P.R. material but it really is! you feel like you're in act3 of a movie!

and i never knew (not being a console gamer) how satisfying those "accomplishments" are. fun.

man and are "headshots" ever satisfying! this game is gonna turn me into a sadist. but man, the "POP" of a ripe head bursting into blood chunks after getting a solid hit from a high caliber weapon - priceless!

and the satisfaction of just going FULL AUTO with your m16 - not for lack of discipline - but because there is a WALL OF ZOMBIES such that you cannot possibly miss... oh... that's good stuff at the end of a bad day.

highly recommended!

jin

p.s. also, the finishing of one scenario in an hour's sitting - man, that is JUST PERFECT for working adults! it's "just right" in terms of length. just so many good decisions in this game.

Matt
11-24-2008, 03:34 AM
So, Jin, when are you gonna team up with the rest of us for some undead target practice?

:)

jin choung
11-24-2008, 03:37 AM
So, Jin, when are you gonna team up with the rest of us for some undead target practice?

:)


i'd love to! and i keep seeing your invite messages when i get home from work! ack!

i assume you are the_goog?

we'll get it down one of these days. i still haven't played online YET! i just finished the game on single player!

jin

Matt
11-24-2008, 06:04 AM
i'd love to! and i keep seeing your invite messages when i get home from work! ack!

i assume you are the_goog?

we'll get it down one of these days. i still haven't played online YET! i just finished the game on single player!

jin

Nope, that's Jeff I think, my handle is "DeadlyAvenger"

JeffrySG
11-24-2008, 07:36 AM
i'd love to! and i keep seeing your invite messages when i get home from work! ack!

i assume you are the_goog?

we'll get it down one of these days. i still haven't played online YET! i just finished the game on single player!

jin

Yeah, that's me! ;)
The_Goog

What we should try to do is plan something on a weekend where it's a little earlier in the UK and not too late for Jin - I think there is about a 10hr diff. between you guys. I'm in the middle so it would probably work out for me.

Depending on how many people want to join in we could also schedule two different games for the different timezones. We could have a sign up sheet or something here to fill some slots. I think a single campaign takes about 1 - 1.5hrs to get though or so depending on how many re-dos you have.

I played a little of the VS. games this weekend. I'm not very good at being the infected just yet, but it seems like it can be pretty fun. I still have to play through the 3rd and 4th campaigns. I'm trying to play them and finish them in order to drag it out a bit. :)

jasonwestmas
11-24-2008, 08:36 AM
Look for ME! ^>^ "epiginosis"

JeffrySG
11-24-2008, 10:09 AM
If anyone has not purchased it yet I think Circuit City has it pretty cheap right now:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Left-4-Dead-PC-014633098556/sem/rpsm/oid/231874/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Not sure if that's US only...

virtualcomposer
11-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Some exploits from tonight's gathering!

Mark advises us what to do when entering an office!

Is this what happens when you have a render crash at the office with a big deadline??? :D

Matt
11-24-2008, 10:43 AM
Is this what happens when you have a render crash at the office with a big deadline??? :D

LOL, who knows, but I bet Darkside are worried now!

Matt
11-24-2008, 10:44 AM
Yeah, that's me! ;)I played a little of the VS. games this weekend. I'm not very good at being the infected just yet

Not just me then, I was awful being the "infected", didn't even manage to cause any damage before being blown away!

virtualcomposer
11-24-2008, 10:52 AM
I bet if you played the newest Ashley Simpson cd, they probably would have died on their own. Is there a feature in that game where you can do that?

warrenwc
11-24-2008, 03:32 PM
I keep missing everyone too.
Still working on the single player, though.

JeffrySG
11-24-2008, 06:16 PM
I keep missing everyone too.
Still working on the single player, though.

What's your steam ID? I'll add you to my friend list...


I finally got through the airport scenario on advanced. I don't think I've ever seen so many smokers, hunters and boomers before! It took us two times to finish the end but we finally made it to the plane.

The last chapter really starts so damn cool... If you haven't played that part yet I won't ruin it but - very cool looking.

I don't really enjoy the game when I'm not playing online. The AI of the survivors is not that great and it just takes the fun out of it for me. Playing with a good cooperative team is key for me.

JeffrySG
11-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Not just me then, I was awful being the "infected", didn't even manage to cause any damage before being blown away!

Yeah, me too. I think that most of the time it's hard to cause a lot of damage but I'm sure I just still need to get the feel of it.

After we have arranged some normal games it would be cool to get some 4 on 4 in vs. mode. That might be fun to record some movies of some of those games. All in good time.

jasonwestmas
11-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Great Playing with ya Goog :D My friend sucked me into that level, it was tough!

JeffrySG
11-25-2008, 10:55 PM
Great Playing with ya Goog :D My friend sucked me into that level, it was tough!

Yeah, it was good to see you there! It really sucks when you have some of the AI survivors with you. It really messes up the whole game.

I played the last campaign on Advanced and then a few of us played the first one on Expert. Man I'll tell you. As hard as the others are, Expert is way beyond all of them. We didn't get out of the subways but I'll tell you it was really fun trying! I'm glad they put that Expert level in there. Very very challenging.

I made a 'spray' image to use in the game and I used LW to create the bulk of it - then a little photoshop retouch. They end up only being 256x256 so I lost a lot of detail but it was fun making it. I'll try to take a screen grab of it next time I'm in game.

:)

JeffrySG
12-01-2008, 01:11 PM
Here's the spray image I've been using in L4D...
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4048/spraypv4.jpg

Matt
12-01-2008, 02:35 PM
Here's the spray image I've been using in L4D...
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4048/spraypv4.jpg

Cool, so they can be full colour! Gonna have to do one myself!

JeffrySG
12-01-2008, 07:05 PM
Yeah, can be full color with an 8bit alpha. I saved mine as a TGA with an alpha. (the three bullet holes are part of my spray too! :D )

I tried doing it 512 and 1024 but it seems the all get sized down to about 256 or so.

aSkeptic
12-01-2008, 09:37 PM
Left 4 dead is a lot of fun despite its 2007-2006 graphics. My steam id is askeptic if anyone wants to go campaign :)

warrenwc
12-04-2008, 04:35 PM
FINALLY managed to get online in VS.
Dead, dead, dead, dead- but it's a great time & next time I'll know how to control the undead a little better..

warrenwc
12-19-2008, 03:07 PM
Anybody still playing?
I can't seem to time it right to catch you guys, but here's some holiday cheer;

Left4X-mas

Twas the night before Christmas.
The snow was stained red.
All the creatures were stirring,
even the dead.

The stockings were hung,
but the chimney protected,
in hopes that St.Nicholas,
had not been infected.

And Mama in her kerchief,
I in my beret,
were planning the details,
of our getaway.

When out on the lawn,
there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from my chair,
to see what was the matter.

The moon on the breast,
of the entrail-spread snow,
gave a nightmare-like luster,
to the carnage below.

When what to our sleep-deprived,
eyes should appear,
but a smoker, a boomer,
and a hunter. Oh dear!

We shouldered our weapons,
released hails of lead,
and soon enough,
they were really dead.

The lull was upon us.
We snuck down the lane,
intending to snag us,
a car, boat or plane.

Escape was in sight,
but ain't life a *****?
We then got the message;
Louis has startled the witch.
*#@%&$^ BOTS!


Merry Christmas everyone
& kill more zombies!

JeffrySG
12-22-2008, 11:01 AM
Yeah, I'm still playing a lot. Still really love it too! :)
The_Goog

If you are into little secret exploits you have to check out some of these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=ivilkee&view=videos

warrenwc
12-22-2008, 03:58 PM
I wish I had that much time on MY hands:)
Pretty nifty stuff though.

Hopper
12-22-2008, 05:47 PM
I got to play for a bit last night. What a blast .. literally. I did indeed enjoy sniping those little bastards from 100 yards away. Graphcs are pretty sharp cranked all the way up.

Stooch
12-22-2008, 11:20 PM
ok thats it, im buying this tonight. too bad it will be around 3 am but should be fun.

Hopper
12-23-2008, 12:46 AM
Fair warning though .. it is, after all, just another FPS. If you play stand-alone mode it's fun but monotony will set in a couple of hours. The scenery will change, but the game play remains the same throughout - pure kill fest. It's the network play that's really the kicker. What a blast. I think I enjoy being the zombies best.

Play in the dark .. play with surround sound. Creepy as hell.

Stooch
12-23-2008, 01:16 AM
yeah i dont really enjoy fps unless its multiplayer.

fallout 3 was OK but i got bored and im not even half way through the game.

warrenwc
12-23-2008, 08:06 AM
Fair warning though .. it is, after all, just another FPS. If you play stand-alone mode it's fun but monotony will set in a couple of hours. The scenery will change, but the game play remains the same throughout - pure kill fest. It's the network play that's really the kicker. What a blast. I think I enjoy being the zombies best.

Play in the dark .. play with surround sound. Creepy as hell.

I LOVED playing as a zombie, but then you have to switch & play against the hoards as well as 4 boss zombies who can communicate & plot strategy.
This seemed kind of unfair. Aren't they supposed to be mindless murder machines?
Anyway it totally changes the way you have to play as a survivor & I kind of enjoy the campaign mode (also available online) better because of that.
Either way - KILL< KILL <KILL:devil:

JeffrySG
12-23-2008, 08:41 AM
Yeah, I have not been playing the VS. mode really but I played yesterday after I finished a campaign with three other people. It really is very different and requires very different tactics as well. I think I might start playing the VS. mode a bit more now. I don't like how you get switched from team to team all the time though. I understand how they are trying to balance out the teams but it takes some of the fun away as well.

Matt
12-23-2008, 08:45 AM
Last time I played Vs mode I hated it!

BeeVee
12-23-2008, 09:43 AM
I played for the first time this weekend and loved it. I think the end credits sequence with "xxxx zombies were harmed during the making of this movie" is great. :d Just a shame I'm rubbish (so far) at this kind of game...

B

JeffrySG
12-23-2008, 09:55 AM
Last time I played Vs mode I hated it!
I understand, the first few times I played I really didn't care for it either. But it really feels very different than the normal game play. It's nice to have that as another option. I'm still really crappy as the infected though.

I played for the first time this weekend and loved it. I think the end credits sequence with "xxxx zombies were harmed during the making of this movie" is great. :d Just a shame I'm rubbish (so far) at this kind of game...
B
By the time I finished two campaigns all the way through I felt that I was getting much better. So I think you'll get better pretty quickly as long as you keep on playing. :)

Matt
12-23-2008, 05:47 PM
ARRRRGH!

Just tried to play this game for the first time on Vista 64 and I get a "Program Not Responding" every time I try and run it.

Steam loads fine but not the game.

Anyone else having this problem?

Matt
12-23-2008, 06:15 PM
This is what Windows had to say about it in the Event Viewer.

Seems it's a common problem, not sure how long it's been like that, as apparently it affects XP and Vista.

Not happy.

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 24/12/2008 12:12:18
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: MATT-64
Description:
Faulting application left4dead.exe, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x491a4be1, faulting module shaderapidx9.dll, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x49385b17, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x0002df66, process id 0xc5c, application start time 0x01c9655c47a82a37.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-12-24T00:12:18.000Z" />
<EventRecordID>3681</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>MATT-64</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>left4dead.exe</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>491a4be1</Data>
<Data>shaderapidx9.dll</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>49385b17</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>0002df66</Data>
<Data>c5c</Data>
<Data>01c9655c47a82a37</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

Matt
12-23-2008, 06:21 PM
If this happens to you, try this fix, worked for me! Yay!

http://8help.osu.edu/3618.html

jasonwestmas
12-23-2008, 06:37 PM
Hasn't happened to me yet but Thanks Matt!

Bog
12-23-2008, 07:19 PM
BeeVee says he's rubbish, but I never wanted for a medpack when I was hurting, and whenever I was reloading he was sending 12-gague restraining orders downrange, so I don't have any complaints.

Matt
12-23-2008, 09:00 PM
Just had a blast on single player to get back into it, played with headphones on and lights out, man, it really sh!ts you up! The sounds and incidental music really make you nervous about entering rooms etc.

Worst thing about single player is, your teams mates (computer) NEVER go into a room first, it's always down to you to lead the way!

:D

Matt
12-23-2008, 09:03 PM
BeeVee says he's rubbish, but I never wanted for a medpack when I was hurting, and whenever I was reloading he was sending 12-gague restraining orders downrange, so I don't have any complaints.

Dunno why, but I reckon Ben loves healing people more than shooting zombies! It's just the kinda guy I imagine him to be!

:D

Stooch
12-23-2008, 11:24 PM
Just had a blast on single player to get back into it, played with headphones on and lights out, man, it really sh!ts you up! The sounds and incidental music really make you nervous about entering rooms etc.

Worst thing about single player is, your teams mates (computer) NEVER go into a room first, it's always down to you to lead the way!

:D

lol says alot about their AI actually :) i guess you are the red shirt.

JeffrySG
12-24-2008, 09:51 AM
The AI is not too bad but they do some stupid things some times. If one of them is hurt real bad and walking slow to the safe room, I'll try to stay with them to cove their butts. But if I'm with them they won't go into the safe room! So I have to go into the room and leave them on their own to make it in all alone usually. Or watch them get pounced! lol

JeffrySG
12-24-2008, 09:54 AM
A few days ago we were trying to jump to some across some building to skip a hoard but we all fell short a bit! Every time someone tried to jump over to save us they got stuck too... Zoey fell to her death trying too! lol

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3070/jumpdl8.jpg

phil lawson
12-28-2008, 07:06 AM
Do we have a LW group on steam that I could join to get in on zombie beating fun?

Its an awesome game indeed...had one game last night on the finale of chapter 2 in the old boat house...the moment it was announced the boat was ready - myself and two others run for it...unfortunately the 4th member was still fending off the zombie horde with the mini gun...needless to say...he was the first to go. :)

Matt
12-28-2008, 07:21 AM
Do we have a LW group on steam that I could join to get in on zombie beating fun?

Its an awesome game indeed...had one game last night on the finale of chapter 2 in the old boat house...the moment it was announced the boat was ready - myself and two others run for it...unfortunately the 4th member was still fending off the zombie horde with the mini gun...needless to say...he was the first to go. :)

I setup this one:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Dead_Ringers

Chuck me your SteamID and I'll invite you in!

Matt
12-28-2008, 08:23 AM
Oh I just gotta try this!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a9CdFBohFCk

zapper1998
12-28-2008, 08:28 AM
wow i gotta get that game.. wow

Matt
12-28-2008, 09:27 AM
For those who want to try this out!

http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Console_commands

You might wanna do this too:

Bring the console up and enter:

noclip

This allows you to fly anywhere. Position yourself in a safe place, and trigger a massive horde and watch the computer team bite it!

Or, type: nb_blind 1 (makes you invisible to zombies) and stay in the action!

jasonwestmas
12-28-2008, 12:40 PM
Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,!! ;)

Matt
12-28-2008, 12:54 PM
Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,Cheater,!! ;)

Nah, you can't use them in Multiplayer unless a server has specifically been setup to allow them.

I was just messing about seeing how many zombies I could get on screen!

Matt
12-29-2008, 05:36 AM
Max zombies on screen set to 300

Max mob attack set to 200

Pretty frickin' manic! :D

phil lawson
12-29-2008, 08:53 AM
LOL Nice Matt - Cant wait for the SDK - gotta try and put a lawnmower in to recreate BrainDead. :)

Bog
12-29-2008, 06:04 PM
Or Dead Rising for that matter.

Oh hell, now I want a Flying V guitar for my mélee attack...

Matt
03-08-2009, 09:21 AM
Been having a absolute ball on this with William Vaughan and Mark HB the last few days! We really need more LightWavers!

Come get some! :D

Bog
03-08-2009, 09:22 AM
Oh, was that Proton playing Francis last night? That image tickles me.

phil lawson
03-08-2009, 09:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDmgw9pfkI4

** Some strong language **

Very funny stuff right there...should ring a bell if you play L4D. hehe. :)

Bog
03-08-2009, 09:27 AM
<Francis> I hate YouTube. </Francis>

phil lawson
03-08-2009, 11:30 AM
Kinda sums it all up really lol - fun game guys.

http://www.uberdesigns.co.uk/temp/l4d.jpg

Bog
03-08-2009, 11:53 AM
Tonnes of fun, chaps - thanks. Let's go it again soon.

Matt
03-08-2009, 11:55 AM
Kinda sums it all up really lol - fun game guys.

http://www.uberdesigns.co.uk/temp/l4d.jpg

Classic! That was a great session!

Love that YouTube link, especially the Witch part!

jmrodro
03-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Hey Matt,

My Steam Id is jmarcr.

I'd like to join in on some Left 4 Dead fun.

Jean Marc

OnlineRender
03-08-2009, 12:57 PM
we could make some MAP using xsi and hammer !

XBOX GAMER TAG : Onlinerender
Steam : Moemajik

Matt
03-08-2009, 01:27 PM
Cool added you both!

And I've finally found out how I can record and have my own voice in game too!

Console command voice_loopback 1

It does mean you hear your own voice played as you speak, but it's a small price to pay.

If anyone knows how to work around that, I'd appreciate it!

Bog
03-08-2009, 02:58 PM
Cool added you both!

And I've finally found out how I can record and have my own voice in game too!

Console command voice_loopback 1

It does mean you hear your own voice played as you speak, but it's a small price to pay.

If anyone knows how to work around that, I'd appreciate it!

Shove a Q-tip deep into each ear.

(Don't try this at home, kiddies!)

JeffrySG
03-08-2009, 06:28 PM
I've been busy the past few weeks but still get on for a good game two or three times a week. I've been pretty much playing on Expert exclusively now as well. Who you end up with for a team makes ALL the difference on Expert I'm really finding - more so than the other levels.

I'll try to keep an eye out for all of you as well. Feel free to add me to your friend list if I'm not on there already: The_Goog

What time of day (GMT) are you all typically playing now?

Bog
03-09-2009, 07:08 AM
I think mid-evening (around 20:00 GMT) is really the best kind of time for this. A session generally last an hour to an hour and a half, and a full play-through of one full episode really is the way to experience the game at it's best. I've generally got my workload tamed and in a box by then, and having an hour or so to let the adrenaline byproducts gibber out of one's nervous system before bed's not a bad idea either ;)

Gotta say, though - one good session does satisfy the Gaming Urge a lot more than two or three hours of scampering around in TF2 randomly blasting away - I think the enforced teamplay mechanic helps with that.

Matt
03-09-2009, 07:12 AM
I was watching some of our footage from the other night, and came across this particular gem!

Awesome noob Molotov throwing from yours truly!

Flipping thing hit the aircon outside the building, bounced back and set the team alight!

Nice! :D

Bog
03-09-2009, 07:16 AM
.sig updated in your honour, matey!

Matt
03-09-2009, 07:32 AM
This pretty much sums up our 'l33t skillz' when playing on 'Expert' mode!

BTW: It seems our nade throwing skills let us down again, Philip Lawson's Molotov set off the witch! Which is why she went after him and not me this time!

:D

And my aiming went to pot at this point, random shooting everywhere, including team mates! :D

JeffrySG
03-09-2009, 07:47 AM
I was watching some of our footage from the other night, and came across this particular gem!

Awesome noob Molotov throwing from yours truly!

Flipping thing hit the aircon outside the building, bounced back and set the team alight!

Nice! :D

LMAO, I've had that happen before with a pipe bomb hitting a random pipe or wire and then bouncing back right into the survivors! Oh oh!

phil lawson
03-09-2009, 07:52 AM
ROFL - forgot about that one! :D

I remember hearing the witch - just never knew where she was. Didn't have an auto shotgun either so I was screwed lol.

EDIT: Also got a mic now - should be more of a laugh in the future.

Matt
03-09-2009, 07:59 AM
ROFL - forgot about that one! :D

I remember hearing the witch - just never knew where she was. Didn't have an auto shotgun either so I was screwed lol.

EDIT: Also got a mic now - should be more of a laugh in the future.

Yeah, that part was particularly difficult from what I remember, the hordes just kept on coming!

I've managed to get my mic working too, and I can include myself in the recordings too!

So we'll all set for some funny banter! I think I'll be on tonight!

We need to list everyone's timezones I reckon, so we know the best time to all hook up!

JeffrySG
03-09-2009, 08:20 AM
Yes, please let me know what time you will all be on.

Also, I have two great places to stay during that crescendo event on Dead Air. They make surviving it much easier especially on Expert. Although witches do make things a bit harder! ;)

PS. I'm GMT -5 (east coast us)

phil lawson
03-09-2009, 08:57 AM
I think I'll be on any time from 6-8hrs from this post, so 8-10pm UK if that's ok with everyone.

Bog
03-09-2009, 09:23 AM
Oh gh0d. At this rate we'll be having to organise staggerd Versus matches with people taking turns as the Survivors on alternating nights.

No, too organised....!

Matt
03-09-2009, 09:37 AM
Well I'm clearly on GMT 0, so 7/8-10pm is good for me too! I guess we could just load it up and see who's there, but if we actually plan it, it could be better!

Maximum of 8 needed for versus, otherwise you get left out in the cold like poor Dogboy did last night!

JeffrySG
03-09-2009, 09:42 AM
I'm not sure if I'll have time, but if I do I'll try to see if you are all on around 3-4pm my time here...

JeffrySG
03-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Fun time today guys!! :D

safetyman
03-10-2009, 07:03 AM
I'm on US East Coast time (GMT -4 ??) so I probably miss you all. My handle is ]DP[Safetyman }Vile{ in case you see me pop in. :)

Bog
03-10-2009, 08:21 AM
Someone is whinging that 8pm is right in the middle of his "Family Time" and that if the game was an hour later, he could join in. Seeing as he's ignored my suggestion to Mickey Finn his family, shall we move it to 2100 for tonight?

JeffrySG
03-10-2009, 08:26 AM
I'm on US East Coast time (GMT -4 ??) so I probably miss you all. My handle is ]DP[Safetyman }Vile{ in case you see me pop in. :)

Yes, you are correct... eastern time is -4GMT now... I forgot about the time change we just had this weekend! lol

http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/edt.html

JeffrySG
03-10-2009, 08:29 AM
Someone is whinging that 8pm is right in the middle of his "Family Time" and that if the game was an hour later, he could join in. Seeing as he's ignored my suggestion to Mickey Finn his family, shall we move it to 2100 for tonight?

That would be 5pm eastern us time... with the new time change here...

Matt
03-10-2009, 08:33 AM
I'm in any time!

Bog
03-10-2009, 09:11 AM
I'm in any time!

So to speak.

phil lawson
03-10-2009, 09:22 AM
I got held up with work last night - should be good to go tonight. If there's enough, a vs might be a good laugh also. :)

Matt
03-10-2009, 09:31 AM
So to speak.

It's your voice Mark, it's just too sexy! :D

Bog
03-10-2009, 09:32 AM
Spare my blushes. My face heats quite enough when you thumb-finger a molotov from behind ;)

Matt
03-10-2009, 11:30 AM
Spare my blushes. My face heats quite enough when you thumb-finger a molotov from behind ;)

Even though I know what you're referring to, that sounded wrong!

Bog
03-10-2009, 12:09 PM
Even though I know what you're referring to, that sounded wrong!

Thank you for noticing. I put some effort into that sentence.

Matt
03-10-2009, 01:11 PM
Watch your back tonight, I might be trigger happy! ;)

KorbenD
03-10-2009, 01:35 PM
I play L4D (and TF2) fairly often. Steam ID STEAM_0:0:1515 if anyone wants to add me. Username is >f7> KorbenD

Bog
03-10-2009, 04:26 PM
Or you might be bloody absent.

*sniff*

Well, I'm bogster on there, we've got a slot free so come help Ben, Philip and I cure the infection.

One bullet at a time.

JeffrySG
03-10-2009, 07:07 PM
I missed today's game! I'll try to make the next one!!!

Matt
03-10-2009, 07:19 PM
Ohhh what a blast tonight was! I recorded 36.8 GB worth of play! I'm sure there are some classic moments in there!

:D

phil lawson
03-10-2009, 07:26 PM
Ohhh what a blast tonight was! I recorded 36.8 GB worth of play! I'm sure there are some classic moments in there!

:D

Yeah it was awesome - I bet 35GB of that video was the finale :D

Can't take these two anywhere without the destruction of property. ;)
http://www.uberdesigns.co.uk/temp/l4d2.jpg

Matt
03-10-2009, 07:40 PM
LOL! That is so funny! I didn't even notice Will had put his up when I did mine! :D

phil lawson
03-10-2009, 07:42 PM
Is the spray just a .png file Matt?

Matt
03-10-2009, 07:43 PM
Okay, here's one rather disastrous moment! Phil decides to take on the witch at close quarters, then Mark decides to throw in a Molotov while everyone is still in the room!

Nice work there Mark!

www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-FizzBeehatchandGun.rar

Matt
03-10-2009, 07:44 PM
Is the spray just a .png file Matt?

A 256x256 Targa will an alpha channel for chopping bits out so it sits on the background nicely!

WilliamVaughan
03-10-2009, 07:45 PM
was an awesome campaign tonight...Bog left us to die but we managed just fine...err..I mean I did :P

Sorry I had to leave you behind but the guy flying the plane said he was heading to the bar....Beer before Bros....:thumbsup:

Matt
03-10-2009, 07:46 PM
I've never seen you run so fast Will, while we were all being eaten! :D

(BTW: I love your reaction to Phil's witch attack in the video above!)

WilliamVaughan
03-10-2009, 07:51 PM
Okay, here's one rather disastrous moment! Phil decides to take on the witch at close quarters, then Mark decides to throw in a Molotov while everyone is still in the room!

Nice work there Mark!

www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-FizzBeehatchandGun.rar


Priceless...there are alot more moments like that :P

phil lawson
03-10-2009, 07:53 PM
Okay, here's one rather disastrous moment! Phil decides to take on the witch at close quarters, then Mark decides to throw in a Molotov while everyone is still in the room!

Nice work there Mark!

www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-FizzBeehatchandGun.rar

ROFL - brings tears to my eyes... We should get a site built up to host all our noobish antics. Makes a change from the pro videos posted around the net lol.

William: Yeah the err plan worked perfectly...Matt and I sacrificed our bodies to the zombie horde so you could escape...yes that'll do nicely. :)

WilliamVaughan
03-10-2009, 07:56 PM
William: Yeah the err plan worked perfectly...Matt and I will sacrificed our bodies to the zombie horde so you could escape...yes that'll do nicely. :)

I love it when a plan comes together :)

Bog
03-10-2009, 08:09 PM
Tonnes of bandwidth on my site you dead sucke... buddypal mates o'mine!

I'm gutted I had to leave, but I promised myself I wouldn't get divorced before I hit 40.

Matt
03-10-2009, 08:47 PM
This was an heroic effort by the team against the tank, sadly, it was all in vain!

Dunno what Mark was thinking sneaking up behind it, like it wouldn't notice!

Meanwhile, William is up top taking on an entire horde and a Hunter by himself, which turned on Mark and I after he died!

Of particular note was my excellent Boomer pushing skills! :D

http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-Almost_Heroic.rar

Matt
03-10-2009, 09:05 PM
William's rather successful "Closet Plan" ...

Although the close quarters meant Mark and I engaged in some sporting friendly fire! Hey, it was tight in there, and to make matters worse, Phil farted! :D

http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-WilliamsClosetPlan.rar

Bog
03-10-2009, 09:06 PM
Well, in my mind I was a fluffy kitten, and the Tank was a pretty butterfly, and I wanted to catch it in my paddy-paws

phil lawson
03-10-2009, 09:12 PM
William's rather successful "Closet Plan" ...
Hey, it was tight in there, and to make matters worse, Phil farted! :D


That's why you see Mark leaving the security of the closet despite the horde rush still in effect. ;)

Matt
03-10-2009, 09:13 PM
I just had to laugh at this, William has an unfortunate case of mistaken identity! :D

http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-MistakenIdentity.rar

Hopper
03-10-2009, 09:20 PM
William's rather successful "Closet Plan" ...
The closet tactic is great ... two people down in front pushing back while two in back shoot.... When they have to reload ... switch .. Almost no one suffers damage. It's pretty effective. Just move your arse out when the tank finds you!!!

Hopper
03-10-2009, 09:22 PM
I just had to laugh at this, William has an unfortunate case of mistaken identity! :D
William - zombie games? No way! lol

I should make you a Tofu tag to spray in your games.

Matt
03-10-2009, 09:45 PM
As a team, we made it through thick and thin, backing each other up and dishing out health, we were like brothers, nothing could separate us .... except ..... a plane!

William, how could you! :D

http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-Left4Dead.rar

Hopper
03-10-2009, 09:50 PM
As a team, we made it through thick and thin, backing each other up and dishing out health, we were like brothers, nothing could separate us .... except ..... a plane!
You sacrificed your lives so that we may have new LW tutorials!

WilliamVaughan
03-10-2009, 11:35 PM
As a team, we made it through thick and thin, backing each other up and dishing out health, we were like brothers, nothing could separate us .... except ..... a plane!

William, how could you! :D

http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-Left4Dead.rar


"William you bastard!"

Priceless.

I love watching these clips.:thumbsup:

realgray
03-11-2009, 12:26 AM
"had to be done"

Awesome :ohmy:

Matt
03-11-2009, 05:52 AM
It's such good fun, if we can get 8 people, Versus mode is even better!

Bog
03-11-2009, 06:29 AM
True. Though stealth play took a long time to grow on me, I'm starting to get into it.

Matt
03-11-2009, 07:30 AM
Interesting reason why you shouldn't set the tank alight:

http://left4deadforums.com/3623-why-you-should-not-set-tank-fire.html

phil lawson
03-11-2009, 07:51 AM
Do you have a clip Matt when someone thought it would be an interesting idea to probe the car alarm right outside the safe room? :D

Bog
03-11-2009, 07:57 AM
*Howls with laughter*

William you bastard, indeed! Why do we always have the same three names on the "In Memory Of" strap?

phil lawson
03-11-2009, 08:09 AM
We lost (Idle)Bog just before the plane door started to open. Last I saw, he was flying through the air to the opposite side of the field curtsey of Mr Tank. :)

Matt and I saved William for the better good with our planed kamikaze skills...or so the legend is told.

Bog
03-11-2009, 08:26 AM
Yeah, sorry I had to bail during that second game lads. This is why 20:00 is a good time for me, it means the wife won't start complaining about my (somewhat loud) voice reverberating through the house at bedtime...

It's hard to use a moderate tone when you're hip-deep in the Undead - or describing a mathematically beautiful parabola through the air having received a tanky love-pat.

WilliamVaughan
03-11-2009, 08:41 AM
I'll be up for another round after work today. Versus would be fun with 8 LW'rs

RollerJesus
03-11-2009, 08:49 AM
I picked up L4D last night. Hopefully when I get up to speed you guys won't be on to something else.

RollerJesus on here, RollerJesus on Steam.

jasonwestmas
03-11-2009, 09:28 AM
Feel Free to bug me for a game, otherwize I'll just forget. :)

epiginosis at yahoo dot com.

Matt
03-11-2009, 09:41 AM
That's what I like to hear!

Hey, BTW: April brings new things!

New level (Lighthouse) new mode (Survival) and more:
http://left4deadforums.com/17788-left-4-dead-downloadable-content-more-information.html

SDK, some documentation here for the level editor:
http://left4deadforums.com/17786-left-4-dead-steam-development-kit-documentation.html

Matt
03-11-2009, 09:43 AM
Feel Free to bug me for a game, otherwize I'll just forget. :)

epiginosis at yahoo dot com.

Do we have your Steam ID?

JeffrySG
03-11-2009, 10:01 AM
That's what I like to hear!

Hey, BTW: April brings new things!

New level (Lighthouse) new mode (Survival) and more:
http://left4deadforums.com/17788-left-4-dead-downloadable-content-more-information.html

SDK, some documentation here for the level editor:
http://left4deadforums.com/17786-left-4-dead-steam-development-kit-documentation.html

I haven't been reading the L4D forums lately... that survival mode looks pretty cool. You don't have to spend a full hour to play a game.
http://www.gamesradar.com/video/v-20090304181329535022

Do you know if that new pack coming out is free if you own the game already or is it a purchase update?

phil lawson
03-11-2009, 10:41 AM
Yeah - its free if you already own the game - but I believe a new boxed version will be released for those who dont yet own it.

Matt
03-11-2009, 11:21 AM
Just wondering, you can get your own game server for around £12.51/month for an 8 player slot (max you can have in L4D).

Is it worth it? Or shall we just stick to joining the many free ones out there (which can suffer from lag if you get the wrong one).

And out of the many hosting companies, who's the best? I have no experience in this area.

phil lawson
03-11-2009, 12:07 PM
Could be interesting, but a server that's gives us in the UK a fantastic ping might not give the folks in other parts of the world the same. Though it didn't seem too bad for William last night seeing that Mark was hosting it on his cable connection.

jasonwestmas
03-11-2009, 12:15 PM
Do we have your Steam ID?

Whoops I changed it to "JPWestmas", do a search for that name, I'm not a newb either so I may be able to bring some competition. You guys play Verse mode at all?

Matt
03-11-2009, 01:41 PM
Whoops I changed it to "JPWestmas", do a search for that name, I'm not a newb either so I may be able to bring some competition. You guys play Verse mode at all?

Versus mode, yes, if we get enough people online at the same time.

Tried to add you Jason, but that name (JPWestmas) ain't finding anything!

JeffrySG
03-11-2009, 01:48 PM
Versus mode, yes, if we get enough people online at the same time.

Tried to add you Jason, but that name (JPWestmas) ain't finding anything!

I think it's easiest if everyone joins Matt's team/group then we can all find each other and see who is online at any point. So if you want to play send Matt your Steam ID and he can send you an invite for the LW group that we're in. :)

PS. I'm really excited to get those new updates and maps!

Matt
03-11-2009, 02:32 PM
Yep, this is us!

Dead Ringers!

http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/bd/bd3f33b9705544a49803c4b31491da9fb33269d3_full.jpg (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Dead_Ringers)

JMarc
03-11-2009, 02:41 PM
Thanks for the invite, Matt. (I appear on the LW forum as JMRodro when on my home account and JMarc from work. Always jmarcr showing as JMRodro on Steam) I have joined up but being married with kids, I usually only get time to play after 9pm EDT (Toronto, On., Canada time). Hopefully I will get a chance to find you guys still up and killing zombies one night soon. I have never tried Versus but I look forward to giving it a shot... a headshot, that is! ;)

RollerJesus
03-11-2009, 02:47 PM
I'm in!

JMarc
03-11-2009, 02:55 PM
Check out this funny pic my friend grabbed of me (as Francis) posing beside a recent kill. The witch somehow got her head stuck in the exposed wall frame as we blasted her to bits. Hehe.

WilliamVaughan
03-11-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm up for a late game

jasonwestmas
03-11-2009, 03:21 PM
Thanks Matt ;)

Bog
03-11-2009, 03:22 PM
I got my zombie-stompin' clogs on, a case full of 12" vinyl (records, you pervs!) and a case of 00 buck.

Shall we dance?

JeffrySG
03-11-2009, 03:37 PM
Yep, this is us!

Dead Ringers!

http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/bd/bd3f33b9705544a49803c4b31491da9fb33269d3_full.jpg (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Dead_Ringers)

ahhh...that link is a good way to tell who's playing at any point too.

I play in bootcamp XP on my mac so I have to re-boot to play so this will be useful!

:)

phil lawson
03-11-2009, 03:40 PM
I'll not make it on tonight I'm afraid gentlemen - work is being annoying. You'll just have to make do with completing a campaign trouble free and professionally without myself bring the skill level down. :)

warrenwc
03-11-2009, 04:24 PM
I WILL try to find time to get some practice in.
I've been distracted by Defense Grid.
Right now, I couldn't keep up with you guys.:chicken:

Sonk
03-11-2009, 05:06 PM
Put it on "Expert" and i'll be glad to join :P Normal is too easy!

Bog
03-11-2009, 05:34 PM
Actually, I fear we're racking the difficulty level too fast at the moment. We keep dying. A lot. A hell of a lot.

jasonwestmas
03-11-2009, 06:03 PM
As we found out Expert is quite insane, the speed of the zombies alone is so unreal!

Bog
03-11-2009, 06:07 PM
As we found out Expert is quite insane, the speed of the zombies alone is so unreal!

Speed doesn't bother me as much as number and the damage (about 10% a thwack) they do. Four or five at a time, it's no problem but when they come in dozens, I don't know where to hunker down for a fire-field.

Hopper
03-11-2009, 06:15 PM
Want to have some real fun? :D

See how long you last with this one... open up the admin console and give the commands:

director_force_panic_event
director_panic_forever 1

Enjoy ... (if you can .. muaaahhaahaaahaaaaaaa)

Matt
03-11-2009, 10:34 PM
Put it on "Expert" and i'll be glad to join :P Normal is too easy!

We always play on Expert, it's much more fun!

Matt
03-11-2009, 10:37 PM
Want to have some real fun? :D

See how long you last with this one... open up the admin console and give the commands:

director_force_panic_event
director_panic_forever 1

Enjoy ... (if you can .. muaaahhaahaaahaaaaaaa)

I had a mess with the console a while back, this was the fruits of my labour!

:D

http://www.newtek.com/forums/showpost.php?p=800316&postcount=127

Matt
03-12-2009, 06:09 AM
Mark lets us in on a secret! (http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-Thai Hookers.rar)

Matt
03-12-2009, 06:15 AM
I thought you were a dead person! (http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-I Thought You Were A Dead Person.rar)

(Sigh, what a noob!)

Matt
03-12-2009, 06:32 AM
These last two videos make me look so crap!

Oh FFS! (http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-Oh FFS.rar)

JeffrySG
03-12-2009, 08:39 AM
I thought you were a dead person! (http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-I Thought You Were A Dead Person.rar)

(Sigh, what a noob!)

LMAO... yeah, friendly fire will end an expert game really quick! lol

Sonk
03-12-2009, 08:43 AM
We always play on Expert, it's much more fun!

Tell that to Phil :P The new patch release yesterday seem to screw up L4D..

JeffrySG
03-12-2009, 08:50 AM
Here's some great info on Expert game play on L4D.

There are different opinions on whether or not you should burn the tank and run or just stay and fight. I prefer to burn and run as long as you are healthy and have space to run but the full thread talks about different strategies. Whatever you decide the whole team needs to be on board. :)

The full thread is here if you'd like to read through it:
Expert Coop Play L4D Tips (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809871)
And here are some other interesting strategy guides... (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819819)

The only thing I'll add is that when you are going to face a big hoard the safest thing to do is to get into a corner with everyone literally on top of each other and spam the melee and occasionally fire as well. No smoker will be able to get you as you will be freed with the melee and hunters will get kicked off. If someone moves forward they will get shot or killed. You need to stay really tight. You can all occupy the same space. Just hold down the back key and I like to crouch as well.

Also if you want to be killed at the end of a level to get the 50% health do it inside the saferoom before the door is shut. If you do this you will still be able to get your weapons when you start the next level. If you get killed outside the room your weapons will be outside as well.

1) In expert mode, friendly fire is your worst enemy. Make one person the established leader (and point man). Where the leader goes, the other 3 follow. Know where your friends are at all times so that you are less likely to shoot them in the face.

2) Travel in a consistent formation. This will reduce friendly fire incidents a great deal, because you have an expectation of where your teammates are, even when you have to turn to shoot at a charging zombie. A commonly suggested formation is this:
The leader and a buddy travel crouched up front with assault rifles and/or shotguns. The other two travel standing with assault rifles and/or scoped rifles. This will allow the standing players to fire over the heads of the crouched, and the crouched can melee incoming hordes. Others suggest an offset diamond, with the point man crouched. Still others don't reccomend a formation at all, but just to stay close. Either way, consistency of team member placement in relation to one another does seem to help a great deal.

3) If a teammate gets incapacitated, he should be close if you are doing your job. Friendly fire damage appears to be disabled when a teammate is incapacitated by a hunter or smoker, so blast away. But fire in short bursts so you don't damage your teammate when they are released.

4) If you are getting mobbed by the horde, crouch down so an assault rifle teammate can headshot the infected's heads around you. If your teammate is getting mobbed and you are close, jump in and start meleeing, shooting away from your teammate. 3 players can stand over a downed teammate, melee the horde off while shooting away from the center.

5) Follow a wall so you are not out in the open. You have less time to prepare for a horde in expert. The trick is to fall into an easily defenable location when the horde hits.

6) If you are indoors and a horde is building, let the leader (pointman) pick a place where your backs aren't vunerable. If in a hallway or up against a wall, 2 crouch and 2 stand with the wall at your back, each set has a 90 degree arc of responsibility. If in a corner, each player has a 45 degree arc of responsibility. (Again, assuming no tank is around.) The best place to be (if there is no tank around) is a small room or closet. This strategy is frowned upon in versus, but used often in expert coop if the goal is to be slow-and-careful as opposed to speed runs.

7) If you see a hunter that is far away, gun him down. If the hunter is close, melee him away and then shoot while he is stunned. If you start to shoot a close and crouched hunter, he can pounce on you before you get enough shots in him.

8) TANKS - like the intro movie says "run or shoot?" - "both". The mass consensus seems to be this: If you have room to maneuver, every player has > 40 health and you are in a location where there are attractive places for the tank to climb (NM final, DA final, barn area on BH final), light the tank up with a molotov and run. Let the fire do its damage over time. Run around obstacles so the tank takes time to climb or throw. He will be faster when on fire, but again, if you have the space to offer him distractions, this is the way. If a teammate goes down from a tank fist, they are dead - don't try to save them (as much as it may pain you). Get distance on the tank with options for exit in case he comes after you and blast away. If your maneuverability options are not optimal for this or you can not run due to low health, do NOT light the tank on fire. The consensus is to run to a location where you can offer him distractions (like the rooftop crane area on DA). This seems to be the most debated strategy.

9) In each group, there should always be one person with a molotov (for strategy 8) and one with a pipe bomb (for suprise hordes in locations that are not optimal). Do not waste these assets in easy areas.

10) Don't burn through your health packs and pain pills. 20% or lower for health packs - some people will argue that you should be in the "black-n-white" before using a health pack. Since pain pills can be administered quickly, save them for when you need them - when a tank shows up or for a final sprint to the safe room.

11) Don't take a health pack if you have teammates there that need it more - or take it and heal them yourself when they get less than 20%. That means DO NOT heal up when you reach the safe room, then take another when the next round starts. Remember that keeping your friends alive keeps you alive.

12) Some experienced players asked to be team-killed near an exit safe room if their health is below 50%. They would prefer to die and be respawned with 50% health for the next section, as opposed to starting the next section with a low health and possibly needing to burn through a health pack. I myself think of this as an exploit of sorts (this wouldn't happen in real life, since there are no respawns), but others argue that there wouldn't be a zombie apocolypse in real life. If you are ok with this strategy, it can help your team be more successful.

Matt
03-12-2009, 09:02 AM
Tell that to Phil :P The new patch release yesterday seem to screw up L4D..

Why what did they change that messed it up?

I don't see anything in the update news that would.

JeffrySG
03-12-2009, 09:17 AM
Why what did they change that messed it up?

I don't see anything in the update news that would.

Looks like there are some bugs with it.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821269


Is there a way to host a server on your local machine for group play?

Matt
03-12-2009, 11:47 AM
Oh great, kill my fun why don't you Valve! :D

RollerJesus
03-12-2009, 11:54 AM
Well, I can see what all the fuss is about. Had a nice go last night with some random folks and really had a blast. Can't imagine what expert would be like though, long way to go...

WilliamVaughan
03-12-2009, 12:29 PM
Mark lets us in on a secret! (http://www.creactive-design.co.uk/lightwave/left4dead/Left4Dead-Thai Hookers.rar)


Priceless...all of us at work just Laughed our *** off!

phil lawson
03-12-2009, 02:36 PM
Tell that to Phil :P The new patch release yesterday seem to screw up L4D..

Errr I got invited to a game and just joined - I didn't care what level it was at.

phil lawson
03-12-2009, 02:49 PM
http://www.uberdesigns.co.uk/temp/l4dcake.jpg

Mmmm zombie cake.

OnlineRender
03-12-2009, 02:56 PM
anybody played peggle !!!!!

Matt
03-12-2009, 03:01 PM
http://www.uberdesigns.co.uk/temp/l4dcake.jpg

Mmmm zombie cake.

Unbelievable, someone just couldn't wait and took a big bite out of it, oh, no ...... hold on a mowwwwwment!

:D

OnlineRender
03-12-2009, 03:34 PM
Left 4 Dead: Jump Shot Achievement Guide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FxeZg7uvlI

:P

not ur style heres 5 hot chicks playing it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjjD9BqGPgg&feature=related

jasonwestmas
03-12-2009, 06:06 PM
Yeah that night was all about not shooting each other lol! I had a blast though!

Sonk
03-12-2009, 08:45 PM
good game guys..i must have a bulleyes on my head or something ;P I lost count how many times i got shot by friendly fire.

phil lawson
03-13-2009, 03:22 AM
heheh well, a mixture of my 250+ ping and you jumping out into my line of already active fire didn't help much. ;)

Matt
03-13-2009, 04:22 AM
good game guys..i must have a bulleyes on my head or something ;P I lost count how many times i got shot by friendly fire.

Erm, that was me again! Sorry about that, I need to work on my target acquisition!

:D

phil lawson
03-13-2009, 05:18 AM
Apparently the tank updates are:-


Fire doesn't effect him as much health wise.
Fire still makes him speed up.
Can now hit multiple team members in one swipe.
Vents and small areas don't slow him down.


Just a few notes so we don't have a similar situation as last night - though I really wanted to see if Williams 4 stacked explosive gas cans and 2 oil containers would have killed him. :)

Matt
03-13-2009, 09:33 AM
Just a few notes so we don't have a similar situation as last night - though I really wanted to see if Williams 4 stacked explosive gas cans and 2 oil containers would have killed him. :)

We have got to try that plan, it was a good idea, although luring him into position will be more difficult than we imagine!