avi wrapper slows

[slacker]

I saved a Ted Project as an avi and dropped it into Premiere 6.5 to render out as mpeg for a dvd (we don't have any other way to encode mpeg currently).

However, compared to dropping a physical file into the timeline, the wrapped avi makes the system slower than a turtle in wet cement. I checked the system resource usage and I'm only using about 10% of the available cpu but it's using almost all of my ram and my hard drives are churning away. (Perhaps it's trying to background render?)

My question: Does it regularly act like this, or am I doing something wrong?

I knew I'd take a performance hit saving as avi instead of rendering, but this is a rather drastic difference. Rendering a regular video file as mpeg churns away at about 27fps at the default Adobe settings while using a wrapped avi only gets me about .08fps with the same settings.

As a workaround for now I'm just manually rendering my timeline from Ted and dropping the resultant file into premiere. I've got a dual xeon 2.8 system with all the goodies (up to newtek spec) that I can usually throw just about anything at.

[UnCommonGrafx]

Is it slow all the time or only at load time?
For me, it's only at load time with DFX or anytime I select the loaded file. Hmm, at that thought as you are always dealing with the file, I can imagine it could be rather painful to work with.

I feel your pain.

[slacker]

Hi Robert,

Importing the file is instant. Trying to drop it in the timeline is very slow and scrubbing is impossible for all practical purposes. If I wasn't in such a rush on these projects I'd just let it sit for a while and see if it got any better.

Thanks.

[Bobt]

Or you could still buy some Premiere plugins from me.
(plug plug plug) They are avaiable on my web site.
www.toastergarage.com

Bob

[slacker]

Hi Bob,

We had considered your plugins, but essentially all we use Premiere for is as a glorified mpeg encoder :D, so I couldn't really justify the outlay to my boss (we rarely generate dvds). But we are casting an interested eye toward premiere pro; it would be neat to see what kind of cool song and dance you could make that do. I'm dreaming of dves with alpha and eq/dynamics in realtime...

[Bobt]

Err umm,
So you and 75 freinds would pre order and wait 90 days?

Cause if 75 people are willing to go on my past record
and buy in I can be persauded. But ya think there are 75
folks in the entire Newtek group willing to get PPro plugins?

Bob

[RayLarson]

My .02 worth,

Spend $49 and buy Tmpeg. The encoding outshines Premiere and will make a great Mpeg2 for DVD. We use it all the time and it works great.

[slacker]

Bob,

I honestly don't know if we could even buy PPro and plugins right now [grimace]. Sometimes with budgeting here you get funds right away and sometimes you have to plug away for a few months or so to get purchase approval. I'd hate to have you run off and start something that wouldn't properly reimburse you for all the effort programming involves.

[Jay Kelley]

Personally I have complete faith in you. (Wish I could say the same for Newtek)

If you could get Premiere Pro to support Toaster in real time (gotta include the color correction feature.. That's the biggie) then I think that would be worth $300.00 to me... In advance. I know it's not 75 people, but it's the best I can do.

I used your plugin for Premiere 6 (You and I spoke quite a bit) and I was very impressed. It handled a 2.5 hour project with no trouble. I just need it to use some of Premiere's features in real time..

I guess one question I have is this: Does the new Premere Pro have the potential to work better with toaster, or just about the same?

So... you interested?

Jay

[Bobt]

I guess one question I have is this: Does the new Premere Pro have the potential to work better with toaster, or just about the same?

Its all different inside. I just dipped my toe in the water to
port my effects over and had a longer look. YUV inside is
way nice but it creates differences I cant explain.

>Are you intrested?
Dunno yet its wat too early.
But more and more posts like this and who knows..
Ya got any more freinds :D