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jameswillmott
10-13-2008, 01:39 AM
After giving the new radiosity in 9.5 a thrashing this is what we came up with. I'm pretty happy with the results but I've been staring at these for so long I can't see the wood for the trees, so to speak.

Any advice from my betters on how these could be improved would be much appreciated.

Render times are about 10-20 minutes on my 2.4Ghz quadcore including GI baking time, most of the surfaces use the Delta material with interpolated glossy reflections.

Iain
10-13-2008, 04:18 AM
These look nice James. A little Curves adjustment would give them a lift I think.

I've been seriously wrestling with 9.5 radiosity but the problems I've faced are the same I always have with anything other than Monte Carlo e.g. the contact shadows behind your picture frame make it look like it's inches off the wall. Also there are some blotchies on the door at the foot of the stairs.

The glass in the shower screen could do with some tweaking and I think there is a little too many glossy surfaces but other than that they're very pleasant.

Matt
10-13-2008, 04:37 AM
James, can I ask what GI settings you used?

I have to do an animation of one of our train interiors, and even lowish settings I was seeing render times of 2 hours per frame (which is just unusable). Not only that, but the renders had splotches all over the place.

I have yet to see decent render times on interiors with crisp results in 9.5.

Cheers
Matt

jameswillmott
10-13-2008, 08:56 AM
These look nice James. A little Curves adjustment would give them a lift I think.

I've been seriously wrestling with 9.5 radiosity but the problems I've faced are the same I always have with anything other than Monte Carlo e.g. the contact shadows behind your picture frame make it look like it's inches off the wall. Also there are some blotchies on the door at the foot of the stairs.

The glass in the shower screen could do with some tweaking and I think there is a little too many glossy surfaces but other than that they're very pleasant.

Thanks Iain, I haven't done much in the way of curve adjustment before, can you recommend a resource (or have any tips yourself) for me to study? ( Other than just Googling it? )

The contact shadows aren't the best they could be, I have a lowest GI resolution of 2 pixels in all these images, if I set it to one it would sharpen them up a lot.

James, can I ask what GI settings you used?

Final Gather, Intensity 220%, 512 RPE, 64 Sec, 30d angular tolerance, 2/60 pixel spacing.

Iain
10-13-2008, 09:05 AM
Curves are just a more accurate way of adjusting Brightness and Contrast.

Here I lowered the maximum and the minimum levels and lifted the middle section a little.
I also lowered the saturation a touch.

Matt
10-13-2008, 09:13 AM
Final Gather, Intensity 220%, 512 RPE, 64 Sec, 30d angular tolerance, 2/60 pixel spacing.

Thanks James, will give those settings a go.

jameswillmott
10-13-2008, 09:44 AM
Thanks James, will give those settings a go.

Good luck, though these settings work for my scene they may not work for yours...

manholoz
10-13-2008, 09:53 AM
They look pretty nice, but I see 3 things:
1) The bottom of the stairs, maybe because the way they are illuminated, seem to "float".
2) The ummm marble slab, is it marble? In case it is, it is a bad choice for a kitchen slab. White marble (name your pick) is not an ideal material for kitchen slabs, it is too porous, which means in the end very dirty, and it is very translucid, which means any repairs that is has in it's lifetime will stand out. If it is a dupont material thingy, well, then it is ok I guess :)
Another thing with the slab. Be it made with marble/granite/etc, there would have to be, based on the length of the kitchen furniture, at least a seam, probably where the "dining" part meets the "cooking" part. Sure, there are granite (not marble) slabs that big, but the piece would be very difficult to handle, quite heavy, and ridiculously expensive, for all the waste material it generated. This is probably also the case with synthetic slabs, but I don't have much experience with those, just with stone slabs.
3) Similar to 2. If you're using marble, you'll see a seam all along the (I think it is called) bullnose of the slab in the bathroom.

Still, those are just tiny details. Nice interior renders you have there :)

janoverust
10-16-2008, 03:53 PM
Love those Varierè TOK chairs! :)

No expert, but I think the overall lighting is great. Some of the surfaces are too glossy/wet. Like the floor on the first one.
The glass in the shower is hard to spot, and need some tweaking.

Lightwaves render engine is stunning! :thumbsup:

Larry_g1s
10-16-2008, 05:44 PM
Very nicely done Will. Great detail.

jameswillmott
10-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Love those Varierè TOK chairs! :)


They are awesome aren't they? ( And Variere provide 3ds files to help model from!) I'd love one for my place. Of course, I probably couldn't afford anything else to go in the house if I did. :)

janoverust
10-17-2008, 02:46 AM
They are awesome aren't they? ( And Variere provide 3ds files to help model from!) I'd love one for my place. Of course, I probably couldn't afford anything else to go in the house if I did. :)

I know the Varièr people. Great people with some awsome products.
Check out http://www.varierfurniture.com/ and the online configurator. :hey:

proteo_1
10-22-2008, 01:09 AM
Do you mind to post the scene (i.e.,settings) for the mortal common start to learn how to light architectural interior.
I will appreciatte it too much, as so many of the suscribers to this post (that is the reazon to it, isnt it?)
sorry for my english, im doing my best

jameswillmott
10-22-2008, 01:47 AM
Do you mind to post the scene (i.e.,settings) for the mortal common start to learn how to light architectural interior.
I will appreciatte it too much, as so many of the suscribers to this post (that is the reazon to it, isnt it?)
sorry for my english, im doing my best

Your english is fine, I will post the scene for dissection later.

Mrjack
10-22-2008, 06:06 AM
Great well done
i love the lighting, my favorite is 1st 3rd and 4th

proteo_1
10-23-2008, 10:06 AM
I want to thank you for your answer, and also ask how soon is that later?, im learning 3D by myself and some times it is difficult to find such kind of help
Thank you again

JeffrySG
11-01-2008, 12:11 PM
Just wanted to chime in and say that I really love the images. The first one is my favorite!

fusion2007
11-01-2008, 06:33 PM
I love the very first image.