VT3 Not Saving edit PRoperties

[wtdedula]

Hello All;
I don't know why, but everytime I try to save a VT-Edit project in VT3, all of my edit Properties don't seem to be saved or if they are saved, they appear to be all messed up when I exit and reload the project.

Here is exactly what I am trying to do and what happened ...

I bring in a project that was originally created in VT2. I discover that the cropping is all messed up but one user said that this is expected.

Then I begin to assemble the project in VT-Edit of VT3. I change a whiole bunch of edit properties of each clip - specifically the size, position, border, and color of the clip (I am using all photos, no video in this first VT3 project).

then I save the project as both a VT-Edit project and a VT3 projecty (What's the difference ?) ?

Then I leave for a few hours. Come back, and I load one or both of the files I just created and edited.

To my dismay, I discover that nearly all of the Edit Properties of all of the clips that I just edited and saved are all messed up - some of the clips have the video window positioned nearly off-screen, others are sized incorrectly, nearly all of them have their aspect ratio modified, and perhaps there are other changes made too.

What happened to the settings I originally made ? Why were they all lost or why were most of them lost ?

Did the whole problem stem from the fact that I used a Toasteredit project from the previous versiion of the software (VT2) ?

Needless to say, I will have to go back to VT2 soon to finish my current project unless someone can determine how to get my VT3 Edit Properties settings to be saved correctly.

This happened two times on Sunday - I loaded the VT2 TED project, Assembled it and edited many of the edit properties in VT3, saved it, exited, then reloaded the project, discovered that the aspect ratios an other things got all messed up, took a few more hours fixing them up, resaved the VT3 project, and when I reloaded the second time, they were messed up AGAIN.

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

Tim

[Paul Lara]

Tim, instead of 'Save', try to 'Save As...' using a different project name.

[wtdedula]

Paul;
I may have discovered the source of my problems but I don't know why it's happening.

From what I can see, it appears that while the actual X and Y size of the image is much different than 720 by 480, each and every clip gets changed to a size of 720 X 480 when I open up the project after save or even when I drag new clip onto the storyboard. What action or setting would cause every clip in the project to come in as (or change) to a size of 720 X 480 and how do I prevent that since all original clips are much different than that ?

I have to press "RESET" to get the clip to change to its original (and true) size. I can tell what the true size is by loading it into Corel Photo-Paint. Then I can modify the properties correctly and it has the correct aspect ratio. HOWEVER - when I save and then reopen the project each and every clip reverts back to 720 X 480.

While I didn't have time to thoroughly examine all of the other properties to see if they are being changed incorrectly, it seems like they are being saved correctly.

I have been through the Toaster Preferences so many times and can't seem to locate any setting that would cause the X and Y size of the image to be changed from its true size to 720 X 480 for every clip when being brought in via. "add media" or when a project is reopened after a save.

According to the manual, the X and Y size of the image should be brought into VT-Edit at the actual size of the original image although the image Size (%) is scaled to fit into the video format selected (Which is set to 720 X 486 in the preferences). This makes sense - so then why is the original X and Y size being modified and how do I prevent that from happening?

Good thing I wasn't a beta tester - otherwise T3 would never have been released because I would have found so many problems and I would have you and your associates at Newtek scratching your heads ... Ha Ha Ha !!!

Tim

[SBowie]

For oversize images, like scans, that you want to keepat their original dimesnions, simply set the intial size to 100%.

If you've got a bunch you want to change, there's a 1:1 spline preset in the toolbox - though for some reason I haven't taken time to figure out, it doesn't work correctly with some orientations.

[wtdedula]

Steve;
This info. does not help me so I don't think you understand my problem. I already know that changing a Size(%) to 100 will make the image its original size though for me this doesn't work since the X and Y size is also modified. In all cases, when importing an image or when opening a whole project after a save, the aspect ratio of all images gets changed and the image looks totally screwy - elongated or shurnken. The 2nd number down the list for "Size" always gets changed to 720 and the 3rd. number down the list always gets changed to 480 irrespective of what the actual size of the image is. I do not change these numbers myself and I don't know why they change. If I can't find a solution soon or understand what I am doing wrong, I will have to go back to T2 until a solution is worked out. I can't be modifying the X and Y size for each image everytime I reload an existing project. Time is money, ya know !

Tim

[SBowie]

Sorry, but in the case of newly added images I do not find this to be so. I can drop in a 100 scans and set size to 100% and all is right with the world. If you're working with stills which already have some keyframes set, you may have to clear those first, naturally.

[Paul Lara]

Tim,
You may wish to speed up your workflow with Tool Shed:

- Drop in one new image
- set it's size to 100%
- Open Tool Shed and in Presets | User Presets | Create a new one called "Full Size" or something equally descriptive.

Now, you can drag in ALL your images into the project, or simply multi-select the ones misbehaving, select "Full size" preset and click apply.

This was a bug with an early beta build, but was fixed some time ago.

[wvp]

Tim, I am wondering if you have the preferences set wrong.
Disclaimer: I am not a VT3 user yet!
In VT2 in preferences there is an option to "scale" images (or make them 'fit the frame'). You do NOT want this. You want to inport images in their original sizes / resolutions. After this you then resize the images in TED.
Perhaps T3 offers some new options, but I am suspecting it is a setting you have turned on that is changing the size on you.

[wtdedula]

wvp;
Boy that would be nice if there were an option to scale importted images to fit the screen or not scale them. Turning this feature off may perhaps solve my problem I am not sure. I went through each and every VT3 preference and I can't find any feature that changes how the images are scaled. I also don't recall this feature on VT2 but I could have just missed it.

I hope this is easy because if I have to play with splines or setting keyframes each an every time I insert a simple photo and change a few properties, it will greatly increase the time and complexity to complete VT3 projects.

I will work on this all evening tonite but if I don't solve this problem by tomorrow morning, I will be forced to call Newtek tech. support and have them take me through a session where I do exactly what I was doing yesterday when nothing worked right. Perhaps I am doing something out of sequence or incorrectly. I really got used to (and liked very much) VT2's workflow. I sure hope that by adding more features to VT3, and adding splines, Newtek hasn't made the complexity of VT3 operations significantly longer.

Tim

[SBowie]

Try this - fresh project: drop in some scans. Open the Toolbox, and run the 1:1 spline preset. That doesn't work?