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VideoE
07-04-2008, 12:24 AM
Am trying to use the alt+f function on video/audio clips for dissolves. It says in the manual to use the clip settings panel to uncheck the auto fade in the audio section of the panel if you want the cross dissolve to happen in the video without the creating an audio fade. Tried it but it did not work, audio fade keeps happening. This is my first day using SE, so I'm probably doing something wrong...
Just so you know, I've been editing professionally on Premier Pro for years, so I'm not a newbie to editing, just to SE. It's been a fun day starting to learn the program, but for now however I have a very specific editing workflow that I need SE for, so it will be awhile before I can play with all its possibilities and features. Anyway, thanks ahead of time for your help, I'm sure I'll have a few posts coming up soon -;)
Quiet1onTheSet
07-04-2008, 12:31 AM
Am trying to use the alt+f function on video/audio clips for dissolves. It says in the manual to use the clip settings panel to uncheck the auto fade in the audio section of the panel if you want the cross dissolve to happen in the video without the creating an audio fade. Tried it but it did not work, audio fade keeps happening. Welcome 'E! Hmmm - I wonder if that "Uncheck" methodology works primarily with regard to those instances where you might drag a clip up against, then into another, to create a cross-dissolve only -- or if you've discovered a bug.
I'll dig around in SpeedEDIT here (while my caffeine hasn't worn off just yet), and see if I can get back to you with a useful reply. Else, here's hoping someone will have one ready for you before much time has transpired! Again, welcome aboard, glad to have you!
Q1
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Jim_C
07-04-2008, 07:58 AM
Seems to work fine here. very clunkily, but it works.
I put clips on timeline, switched to storyboard, hit Alt/F. (Fades inserted and audio fades also), then I switched back to timeline so I could see the audio waveform, opened the control tree clicked thru Audio->Advanced->Uncheck Audio Fade In and Audio Fade Out and you can visually see the fade being removed.
Now the bad news. Unfortunately you will have to open the properties of each clip and uncheck the boxes. Normally one would save the setting in the Tool Shed for later use, but the toolshed only remembers things that are checked or have a value other than zero. It does not store the fact that the Auto fades are unchecked.
Hope this made sense.
Jim
VideoE
07-04-2008, 09:48 PM
Thanks for your efforts Quiet and Jim. I was editing in timeline mode when I unchecked the auto fade box. Maybe I need to be in storyboard mode? Perhaps I just need to create my own cross dissolve as a user template and apply when needed.
What I'm doing, and the reason I bought SE, is putting an HDV clip in a 4x3 SD timeline. SE automatically resizes the clip to approx 45% and I cut sections of the long master clip where I need to resize up to 100% for a "close-up" of the video. (I'm shooting live theater/dance performances with only one FX-1 and this way I can fake a 2 camera shoot. SE can do in real time what Premiere Pro and Final Cut Pro slog through so SE is great.
For now, instead of marking I for in and O for out which actually shortens the clip, I just use M to mark the sections of the clip whose size I want to change, cut and then resize and reposition. Pretty fast already, I'll get to know the program better over the next week, I hope. Actually today I had to flip over to Final Cut to finish another project then it will be back to SE tomorrow. Again, thanks, and hopefully we'll figure this alt+F thing out.
ScorpioProd
07-05-2008, 12:08 AM
Note that you probably won't be happy with your FX-1 HDV footage zoomed in all the way to 100%. I have a Z1, and myself and other users in this forum with Z1/FX1 don't find that it truely holds up to zooming in that far. It's just limitations of the lens and such of the Z1/FX1, nothing to do with SpeedEDIT. I wouldn't really recommend you go in closer than 70%.
VideoE
07-06-2008, 02:02 AM
Scorpio, bet the EX-1 holds up better,,, Anyway, while I understand what you are referring to, for parents looking at a video of their children performing on stage, even 110% does ok. For corporate pieces I do find myself running more conservatively. I would like to try capturing from the FX-1 via component sometime and see what bypassing the mpeg compression does for the picture.
ScorpioProd
07-06-2008, 03:03 AM
I'm sure the EX-1 does, as does my PDW-F335 with a Canon HDgc lens on it. I get down to 100% and as long as my focus was critical, and I'm at the 35Mb/s VBR data rate, it will hold up. Depending on the shot, even the 25Mb/s CBR data rate can hold up sometimes, though I can see a difference now that I'm comparing. But still, I typically don't have to go all the way in to 100%, which makes it even better.
But yes, you're totally correct, as the saying goes, "what the eye can't see, the chef can hide." Event clients are not critical enough to notice. And man, for people that haven't moved to LCD yet, wow, CRTs can actually hide a lot of things, I forgot how much they soften with age.
As it is, one of my friends that also got a F335 when I did is just using the Canon SD glass from his DSR-300A on it. It works, and for his clients, they really won't notice a difference. We did do a side-by-side comparison with my lens and I was happy to see there was a chromatic abberation difference between our two lenses, so my investment in HD glass was not wasted. :)
As for component HD out, are you sure that the FX1/Z1 does bypass the MPEG encoding when using that? I never researched it myself, but I thought some people said that some of the cameras actually have that compression before the analog component HD outputs? I don't remember which exact cameras they were referring to at the time, though.
Quiet1onTheSet
07-06-2008, 08:44 AM
I would like to try capturing from the FX-1 via component sometime and see what bypassing the mpeg compression does for the picture.That'll be a good thing to do, E. Do report back to us your findings if you please; Frankly, I'm awfully curious about how the dimunitive Canon HV30 holds up, under big-time magnification, after component video capture via VT[5].
VideoE
07-07-2008, 11:04 AM
Scorpio, shooting musical theater means that almost always, someone is out of focus. At one level it would be nice to have a 355 and be able to swap lenses, check out side by side comparisons for sharpness and CA, etc. As I've gotten older (and blinder?!), I worry less about these things, especially relative to client expectations.
For instance, owning a Red One with Primos and a Red Zoom would be nice, but then to make it work really well you would want to add a focus puller to your crew and have the makeup artist be very careful, etc. Most of my clients wouldn't want to pay for that. Your F355 and the EX-1 actually sound like a great middle ground.
QOS, I would love to do the test soon too, but it will be awhile. Have to save up for something like a Blackmagic Intensity Pro card, and that may take some time. But over at DVInfo Net forums, (are you allowed to mention other forums on this one, sorry if not), I believe people have already conducted such experiments.
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