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Pheidian
03-27-2008, 02:53 AM
Hello fellow 'Wavers!

Here is my latest commercial work done with Kray. 3 different stairway designs for stairway manufacturer.

Whole project (interiors my own design) was done in 3 work days including rendering and comments from clients.

These images are scaled down from original (50%). Originals rendertimes were around 1h / each for final images. This 50% preview images rendered around 10 minutes each...

All images use SAME GI and Kray setup, so basically I just loaded different model to same scene and pressed "render". This is what I love about Kray, you can get good results after you have tweaked one good settings (dozens of test renders in different scenes though...)

Comments welcome!

Mitja
03-27-2008, 05:54 AM
Well, it's nice!
Maybe the backdrop is too bright, but only maybe!
Keep up good work!

Iain
03-27-2008, 06:55 AM
They are very nice, lighting wise. Good job.
I really like the sofas.

Maybe, as Mitja said, they're a bit too blown out at the windows but that can work sometimes. Darker flooring and a hint of colour in the glass would balance it out.
The reflective plasterboard also confuses the eye a bit. At first I thought it was blotching from the radiosity settings.

What caught my eye right away, however, was the composition being slightly forced, cropped in the first and second and off centre in the third. Were you directed to do that?

jthompson3d
03-27-2008, 07:50 AM
I love the lighting in this, I wouldn't change it.

Couple of things I noticed, image 1, what is the branch doing on the top floor, no pot or anything, looks weird and out of place. :D
Image 2 looks great beside the plant seem to throw it off to me, the color of the plant seems weird, it is what tells me it is 3D and no real.
Image 3....LOVE THIS SHOT.... A++ work, great job.:thumbsup:

What were render times on this?

JeffrySG
03-27-2008, 01:46 PM
^render times are listed in the first post. ;)

I love all three renders! My favorite stair case is the one with the wood railing. The plants don't really bother me, and I really love the furniture. I think the 2nd view is my favorite, but they are all great!

ary3d
03-27-2008, 02:22 PM
I think the blown in the windows are ok, if you take a picture with a camera with only natural light it will need more exposure time and the windows will blown away, Except if you take Several pictures with Differents exposures and tweak it.

like the desings, great job :thumbsup:

greetings, David

Matt
03-27-2008, 03:23 PM
Yet more extremely crisp, bright renders that make me want to run out and buy Kray! Awesome work.

JeffrySG
03-27-2008, 08:32 PM
I think the blown in the windows are ok, if you take a picture with a camera with only natural light it will need more exposure time and the windows will blown away, Except if you take Several pictures with Differents exposures and tweak it.

like the desings, great job :thumbsup:

greetings, David

Agreed! I think the windows look perfect! (really)

Pheidian
03-28-2008, 01:05 AM
Thanks guys!

Iain: Actually I didn't pay too much attention to the cropping etc, it was the image frame ratio and then again the client wanted the stairs to be in the "main part" of the images, though that living room image was also what they wanted to show up in the room...

Basically they wanted "showroom" stuff with stairs, but in "modern house" around it, so you could see little of the surroundings...

M-X
03-28-2008, 05:11 AM
Fantastic work! I was wondering do you have any examples of Kray renders that are not one regular shaped room with a big window at one end? I have been testing it out and have found it difficult to light anything as well unless the space follows that format, all the Kray renders I have seen seem to follow that format as well. Also any chance of posting your set up and settings?
Again really nice work.

Jure
03-28-2008, 08:38 AM
What kind of room would you want to see? Round without windows?
Hmm.. let's see maybe we can come up with something... ;)

Iain
03-28-2008, 09:31 AM
I was wondering do you have any examples of Kray renders that are not one regular shaped room with a big window at one end? I have been testing it out and have found it difficult to light anything as well unless the space follows that format, all the Kray renders I have seen seem to follow that format as well.

http://www.kraytracing.com/image.php?dir=gallery&file=In_Conc.jpg

That one from Pavlov isn't a regular, well square room. Is that what you mean?

Goldfinger
03-28-2008, 10:01 AM
Really good renders all round...the client should be happy:thumbsup:

I love the last design, just simple structural glass with no hand rail....if only I had the money!

M-X
03-28-2008, 01:02 PM
No, I do a lot of walk thru's of airports and shopping centers etc... where the plans are complex and on many levels rather just a box and a window and seeing the fantastic results from kray on small scale projects I hoped to carry that to larger scale projects but have found balancing the light across many spaces from all angles at once near on impossible.

Ztreem
03-29-2008, 05:34 AM
Awesome work, Looks perfect.

Goldfinger
03-29-2008, 06:40 AM
I'd be intersted to know peoples experience on larger scale interior lighting set ups with Kray...This is something I'd have to use it for if I went for it.

Pavlov
03-29-2008, 07:24 AM
In compex situations Kray is excellent, it scales perfectly.. the more complex the scene is, the better result you get out of Kray - in comparison with other soltuins.
I did several works (i'm under NDA for most) and i can grant that results are there.

Paolo

J|L
03-30-2008, 09:00 PM
just..... Awesome !!!!

Pheidian
03-31-2008, 12:00 AM
Yea, the simple scenes dont show up the speed / quality difference that much between LW native or even Fprime, but the more complex scene you go, the more gap you notice between these renderers, Kray really crushes everything, almost no matter how complicated things go...

And you always use recursion from 10 to 30, which means there are enough recursion to shoot rays right in many glass surfaces, but it also does light bounces according to ray recursion limit (10, is 10 bounce radiosity solution, which is NICE).

DanD
04-01-2008, 11:44 AM
I totally love these!!!

Dan

SandroBenigno
04-01-2008, 01:31 PM
Just... amazing! :rock: Very smooth... soft lighting... wow

m0184you
04-02-2008, 02:13 PM
Beautiful, really like it!

otacon
04-02-2008, 08:45 PM
Looking great. I bet the client was happy.