Marco BedRoom

[lab2]

Hi to all.
With this rendering I have tried to help a my friend in the choice of the furnishing and the decision to insert a parquet.

Work in LW and Rendering with Maxwell.
220 Hours on Intel Core Duo 2 E6600 with 2Gb of RAM

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And with the MultiLight I have gained the single sources of light:

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[Jakkar]

That's some pretty stuff!
Nice lighting. The only thing surfacing-wise that stands out to me is the pillow cases have a high and tight spec that make them look plastic or rubbery. Otherwise, photorealicious...

[Iain]

I like the effect in the one that just has the lights over the bed but the pillows look like rubber.

The curtains are ruining the overall feel for me as they look old and the translucency makes them seem to be falling apart.

[lab2]

The pillow!!!
I have inserted them of last without testing them well. The specular effect has exited with progressing of the passages and at this point it was too much late in order to leave again from zero; other projects had need of the calculation power of my PC. I would have intentional to correct them in post, but I preferred to be able to say: - No modification with Photoshop!

Thanx.

[M-X]

220 Hours??
Is that correct? Renders look fantastic, promted me to look into maxwell but not sure on render times? I usually have to render with Fprime due to time pressures so is maxwell even an option?

[0scrooge0]

220 hours is way too much!!
Come on, NewTek, be innovative again; drop raytracing !!

[0scrooge0]

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No modification with Photoshop!




Post-pro is not something to be ashamed of!

[Iain]

220 Hours??
Is that correct? Renders look fantastic, promted me to look into maxwell but not sure on render times? I usually have to render with Fprime due to time pressures so is maxwell even an option?

Maxwell can render interiors faster than 220 hours and it's exteriors are actually reasonably quick.
But you can't get that kind of physical accuracy without a cost and that cost is render time.

It's a good tool to have for those demanding shots other renderers struggle with.

[kopperdrake]

220 hours is way too much!!
Come on, NewTek, be innovative again; drop raytracing !!

What's the render time to do with NewTek if it was rendered in Maxwell?

Nice images - I personally like the curtains with their blotchy breakup as the light shines through - very realistic. And I love the light spill on the open door from the wall lights in the 'lights-over-bed' shot.

[bjornkn]

Very nice rendering indeed :)
But your friend must be a very patient man? ;) If he have to wait 220 hours between each example with different types of parquet and furniture he must be quite unlike most "clients", who usually wants the job done yesterday ;)
What did he choose?

[*Pete*]

220 hours is more than enough time to rip up old floor, add new, several times, you will also have time to paint the room, several times, not to mention to furnish it, several times.

and if you bring a camera and take photos between each floor/paint/furniture setup you will not only get physically accurate pictures, but also much, much faster than if you would wait for maxwell to finish its 220 hour render (with one type of floor, paint and furniture).

[M-X]

Maxwell can render interiors faster than 220 hours and it's exteriors are actually reasonably quick.
But you can't get that kind of physical accuracy without a cost and that cost is render time.

It's a good tool to have for those demanding shots other renderers struggle with.


I have read a number of reviews about maxwell not working properly with lightwave (on a mac), crashing etc what do you think? How reliable is it? Is it worth buying and playing with or will I just be opening a can of worms? Can you vary the settings to get quick test renders? The site isn't that clear. Could you recommend any forums that may help.

[Iain]

CGArchitect has a forum for Maxwell with a lot of experienced users who are helpful but a lot of them are pissed off about the way the software has been developed (and you can't mention that on the Next Limit forums so they go on about it a bit.)

You can get a good idea of how the render is going to shape up almost right away as it is a progressive renderer but after the initial quick blocking out, things tend to sloooow down, much like Fprime but more exaggerated.

Don't know about the mac issues but Markus (3dworks) seems to get on ok with it and I know he's a mac user.

[M-X]

Thanks, will check it out.

[lab2]

Hi guy,
a upgrade of my BedRoom obtained in acceptable times!

Arranging to the material of the pillows and the bump of the parquet.
Only 20 hours of rendering (1024x768 - S.L 18.16).
In order to catch up to the nineteenth S.L it would have employed us nearly others 10 hours. (Ah, I have changed the cpu. From dual to quad. :hey: )

The first image, is the original version, while in the second one I have a little reduced the noise with Photoshop.

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Thanx for the comments!

P.S. Maxwell Render is a Unbiased Engine that it works in progressive way like fprime, but without interpolations and with a physical calculation of lights and materials. You can stop and resume the rendering when you want!

P.P.S. I have not still used Maxwell for job. Because I am to the beginnings with this innovative software and because "all the clients wants the job done yesterday" 8~

[3dworks]

I have read a number of reviews about maxwell not working properly with lightwave (on a mac), crashing etc what do you think? How reliable is it? Is it worth buying and playing with or will I just be opening a can of worms? Can you vary the settings to get quick test renders? The site isn't that clear. Could you recommend any forums that may help.

you can try the new LW plugin released with version 1.6. users seem to be happy so far with it... (read comments on maxwell forum).

no specific mac issues, on the contrary - maxwell is very well optimized for mac! you can get faster (but less exact) test renders using the preview render engine. with 1.6, there is even a 'technology preview' of the render server for OSX 10.5 64 bit, which is working very well. a demo should be available not far from now (or is it already?)...

cheers

markus

[3dworks]

CGArchitect has a forum for Maxwell with a lot of experienced users who are helpful but a lot of them are pissed off about the way the software has been developed (and you can't mention that on the Next Limit forums so they go on about it a bit.)

You can get a good idea of how the render is going to shape up almost right away as it is a progressive renderer but after the initial quick blocking out, things tend to sloooow down, much like Fprime but more exaggerated.

Don't know about the mac issues but Markus (3dworks) seems to get on ok with it and I know he's a mac user.

hehe, yes, the so much 'unbiased' cga forum... 8~

sure: it's definitely not the tool for those fast overnight jobs or for animations (apart light animations), because even with a tough hardware setup, you need some extra time for rendering *. on the other side, in my experience you save lots of it in setup once you have mastered the material system and the engine. very few test renderings are needed because results are extremely repeatable - don't forget it is a light simulator.

* speaking of time, there are some new renderfarm options which can definitely deliver final images in a matter of very few hours. if your clients budget can handle it, it's a good alternative! best, check the maxwell forums for user experiences...

cheers

markus

[Captain Obvious]

220 hours is way too much!!
Come on, NewTek, be innovative again; drop raytracing !!
Why would it be innovative to drop ray tracing? Especially seeing how it was rendered in Maxwell, which has little to do with NewTek...

[lab2]

My council is:
TRY IT!!!

With the realease 1.6 Next Limits have resolved numerous bug in the plugin for LW.
http://www.maxwellrender.com/plugins/lightwave/index.php

Or, like alternative, try Fryrender.
http://www.fryrender.com/index.php?subpage=download

Both support Displacement and Istance.