LightWave Rendition

[andrew_y]

Here are 2 quick renders using LightWave Rendition for Adobe Photoshop. The file(s) consisted of just the object, (.lwo) and a lightmap. No post work done. Setup time... from importing the object into Photoshop, to the finale render was roughly 5-8 minutes.

[manproof]

Looking good. Is the beta available then? I signed up for the Mac beta a while ago, but haven't heard a peep.

[Lewis]

That's VERY nice, tell us more or better show us some screen grabs :)

[Andyjaggy]

I'm excited for rendition. Not because I want to use it but because I think it will be great for Newtek and Lightwave.

[archijam]

Pleeeease release the demo! I have had CS3 extended now for months, doin nothin' ...

j.

[cresshead]

WOW!
looks fantastic!

where's the demo!!..screengrabs...price!:) :lwicon: :thumbsup:

[warrenwc]

EXTREMELY jealous!
I requested a place in the beta but heard NOTHING.
WantitNOW.
You aren't breaking the NDA by showing these are you?

[andrew_y]

I have no ETA on when it will go Beta, or even its release, sorry.

I'll see if I can get some more images up later, maybe a few screen grabs or something.

[Lewis]

thanks Andrew, show us more stuff when you can, this really looks great for PHotoshop :).

[ShawnStovall]

Looks good! Keep 'em coming. :)

[gerry_g]

Images is one thing, will it do the kind of camera projection matching tricks the 3DMax one does

[andrew_y]

"Images is one thing, will it do the kind of camera projection matching tricks the 3DMax one does"

LightWave Rendition is a renderer for Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended. The above images were created very quickly. Once you have imported your object into Photoshop, you render it to a new layer using LightWave Rendition. This output will be on a new layer. Then you can wack at the image with your bag of Photoshop comp. tricks.

The attached image uses a free model from Tom Bomboula, who was nice enough to submit it to http://dmi.chez-alice.fr/modelstruck1.html -

I've shown the steps in the attachment so you can see the progress. The entire time, including render time, object position, and post work can easily be done in under 10 minutes .. if you have a clear goal in mind. I tend to spend more time on post work and object position than anything, so this example was roughly 30-40 minutes.

[warrenwc]

Look at the dude's signature.
Sorry:o
Really been looking forward to this.
My two favorite programs coming closer together.
(deep breath)
Calmer now.
Thanks for the preview!

[jin choung]

hahaha...

d'oh!

kind of an unfortunate name after the whole kidnapping people and sending them to be tortured in foreign countries thing....

good times... good times....

jin

[gerry_g]

Once you have imported your object into Photoshop, you render it to a new layer using LightWave Rendition. This output will be on a new layer. Then you can wack at the image with your bag of Photoshop comp. tricks.

OK I see, it allows you do the entire comp from within PS using LW's light set up and renderer pretty much the way the C4D one does, I still don't see anyway to pass the camera information back to LW for animation purposes, nor the ability to map PS perspective grids to a photo in PS and send it to layout as geometry with matched camera position as a scene file.

[Lewis]

gerry you are looking it from wrong perspective. This is not mainly targeted for LWavers, this is for PHotoshop guys who want to enhance their ability in PS and introduce themself to 3D world. And then they might look into buying Lightwave too if they like what they see/get :).

[jasond]

hahaha...

d'oh!

kind of an unfortunate name after the whole kidnapping people and sending them to be tortured in foreign countries thing....

good times... good times....

jin

Didn't seem like a popular concern, though

[warrenwc]

I really feel that connotation has been attached to the word rendition, since the definition of the word is descriptive of what this plugin does.
If there really are a lot of people offended by this particular word, There is still time to change the name before release.
How about(insert politically incorrect term here as joke)?:angel:

[Andyjaggy]

Can't say I ever thought twice about the name and any double meaning it might portray.

[jasond]

It'll be a harder to avoid that connotation.

[jin choung]

oh, i'm not saying it's a problem.

it's probably not even well known enough to be un-pc.

i'm just saying it's really funny for me. kinda like an sat summer school program for kids called concentration camp.

it's perfectly good english and descriptive... but has unfortunate connections....

jin

[Sekhar]

LightWave Rendition is a renderer for Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended.
Andrew, who's Rendition meant for (i.e., targeted at)? Not LW owners, I presume. More like folks PS users without a 3D app/renderer? Why would an LW owner want to use PS/Rendition? Just trying to understand the positioning.

[evenflcw]

kinda like an sat summer school program for kids called concentration camp.

That's brilliant. :)
I guess it's hard to "never forget" if you were ignorant to begin with.


Thanks for the Rendition examples!

[IMI]

Andrew, who's Rendition meant for (i.e., targeted at)? Not LW owners, I presume. More like folks PS users without a 3D app/renderer? Why would an LW owner want to use PS/Rendition? Just trying to understand the positioning.

Judging by his example with the tractor, it looks to me like a quick way of superimposing a 3D object into an existing photo. Yeah, that can be done in LW too, but this looks like it might be quicker.
There are probably plenty of other uses, I'm sure. :)


"Rendition"? I never made the connection until it was brought up. My first thought on the word was that it was a combination of Render and Addition, as in the the addition of a LW render engine to CS3.

[ftown]

http://www.strata.com/strata3d_ps_plugins.asp

this is what Rendition should be like, when will LW get a robust "export to layers" so we can comp in PS and AE. It has to lock up to PS perspective
grid, and it needs to export all render passes as separate layers, properly named. the market for this is as big as the Photoshop user base is, and I
haven't heard anything from NT, Strata beat them to the punch. (what the?)

[archijam]

To any doubters, don't just sit here and grumble, go to the adobe website and find an example vid for what is possible. It's great extra tool to have (Why add a car to a simple render and double the time when I can add it in PS... ?).

Go NT. Now ... release the demo ! ;)

Please.

j.

[gerry_g]

the market for this is as big as the Photoshop user base is, and I haven't heard anything from NT

Totally agree, Adobe PS must have pitched all the 3D companies on the potential here, must have put out an SDK made all the appropriate hooks known for leveraging the possibilities of this and yet all I can see is a plug-in that provides little or no more than what a properly written set of I/O's would provide. I'm thinking here not primarily of the Strata demo vid's but the Max ones that deal with camera matching going both into and out of PS back into your native app. If this is all that is on offer, the opportunity to pay for a decent set of I/S's that should have been part of the package eons ago I'm not wildly impressed

[ftown]

What is most un-impressive to me, is the timeframe involved. Given the time it takes to bring new features to market, the Adobe pitching would have occured quite some time ago. When you add in the silence since Rendition beta was announced, and what was recently shown here on the list, well, you can fill in the blanks yourself.