SpeedEDIT 1.2 update notes

[andrew_y]

... can be found here:

http://www.newtek.com/speededit/update.php

Enjoy :)

[Pete Draves]

Why just the pro card?
MANY of us have the older cards.

No support for Tempgenc?

I may have to go with premiere, at least that supports HD out thru many cards.

Pete

[SBowie]

I had the same question about the VT card, Pete - the short answer seems to be that you'll be fine. The older card works ok, except that (naturally) is does not support quad audio out. The docs seem to be 'conservatively worded.'

[ScorpioProd]

No support for Tempgenc?


Well, Newtek never did say that TMPGEnc support was coming.

Now then, is the update a PATCH or does one unistall SpeedEDIT 1.0 before installing 1.2?

[Paul Lara]

This is a patch, Eugene.
No need to uninstall SpeedEDIT, as the patch does that for you and then installs the update.

[Fotolux]

[QUOTE=Pete Draves]Why just the pro card?
MANY of us have the older cards.

I works with the older card. All have to do is launch VT 4.6 and select SE on switcher, then launch SE instead VT Edit and you are ready.

You have to left VT open behind SE, just as VT Edit does.

[JReble]

Yes, both the old and new cards work for the analog output from SpeedEdit. As mentioned, you just need to have VT open underneath with SpeedEdit selected in the switcher as a computer generated source.

You will notice that SpeedEdit only appears as a computer generated source in the switcher if you've already selected Newtek IO card in the output menu. That's kind of a pain because the output menu always defaults back to none every time you close SpeedEdit. I don't know why they didn't make it stay once it's set.

You also have to leave the VT4 software running in the background if you want the output to remain. I found no way to close VT4 without it killing the output. In any event, this makes SpeedEdit much closer to VT5. We use the old CG in the back window while working with SpeedEdit in the front. That gives us the best of both for now. I just hope they keep the CG designer in VT5 because we can't get used to the limited CG controls in SpeedEdit.

[Pete Draves]

When using se don't run toaster, just go to output and turn on where sound and pix go.
Windows media player and other programs will automaticaly appear in the mixer when running as wil SE.
Easy
Pete

[JReble]

:confused: :confused: What do you mean? I just said you get no output via the VT card if VT software is not open, and you can't see speededit as a source or do anything with the mixer if VT software is not open either. :confused: :confused:

[Pete Draves]

On the top of the se program there is a button that says OUTPUT.
open the puldown and select VT for output.
Pete

[SBowie]

Pete's right - I've got my outboard Windows audio device muted, and VT[4] is not launched. Nevertheless, I launched SE and can both see it and hear it over my VT outputs.

I do not, however, seem to have control over the VT out volume level using the Windows audio mixer, even though I can set it to display control for it.

[Pete Draves]

Remember, I was the one who couldn't get it to work??????
I read th instructions. Now that is really funny, a tech reading the instructions. We are supposed to be born with all the info.
Pete

[JReble]

Hmmm, I have a VT-pro card and several of the older cards, and on none of these systems can we get analog out through the VT cards without running the VT4 software. How the heck are you guys doing it?

[Pete Draves]

I start toaster take switcher off black and shut down. (dont even know if you have to do this but it works here)
I start se go to the output tab and select vt for pix and sound. may have to select several times)
It works. FM (F*****g Magic)
Pete

[SBowie]

I start toaster take switcher off black and shut down. (dont even know if you have to do this but it works here)I don't do that. (A VT reset beforehand may help in some instances though.)

[JReble]

I have to start VT, select Speed Edit in the switcher and it appears. But...everytime I exit vt4, the picture goes black right after the little box appears saying VT4 is shutting down. It's like VT4 kills the VT card drivers entirely once it finishes exiting. Having Speed Edit in the first or other locations on the switcher makes no difference. Strange.

[SBowie]

JR, I'd be interested to know what happens if you kill WinRTME before you launch SE.

[Pete Draves]

I even have an icon on the desktop for doing that operation.
I use it even after just exiting VT.
Killing media engine also stops a hang when shutting down the machine.
Pete

[JReble]

I've been trying that. No joy.

If I kill winRTME and run Speededit then turn output to VT IO out. I get nothing.

Every time VT4 exits it shuts down the output and I get nothing.

If I run VT4 while SpeedEdit is running, and select SE in the switcher, then kill WinRTME and close VT, it locks up the entire machine real real good.

This is strange. I would expect SE would simply be able to output via the VT4 card without the VT software suite running. It shouldn't be necessary to open the switcher as you guys apparently don't need to. Ah well. I can run the VT4 software at the same time. It would probably be better without using the extra overhead though.

[ScorpioProd]

Considering that WinRTME is the real-time media engine that supports the VT card... I'm not sure why anyone would expect output via the VT card to work without it running...

[JReble]

Ahhh. Figured it out. I needed to make sure Windows Media was mapped to the VT Card output in the VT4 preferences. That allows SE to output without the VT software involved. I normally keep that option set to VGA only. Whew heww

[SBowie]

I'm not sure why anyone would expect output via the VT card to work without it running...I agree, but don't think anyone was suggesting it could be done without the VT card active Eugene ... only without the full VT software suite open. However a reset (kill) before attempting to run VT can be useful occasionally, and this is possibly true for running SE without the full VT suite as well.

[SBowie]

Ahhh. Figured it out. I needed to make sure Windows Media was mapped to the VT Card output in the VT4 preferences. That allows SE to output without the VT software involved. I normally keep that option set to VGA only. Whew hewwGood news, thanks for the update. :)

[vtlipera]

How do you kill WinRTME

[SBowie]

The standard method is to cycle it using the Reset WinRTME in the Utilities section of the VT program group in the Windows Start menu. Many leave a shortcut for this on their desktop - esp., those in live environments, where quick access can be important.

(You can do it from the Run command, too, but the above should suffice.)

[Pete Draves]

here are shortcuts for a standard instalation of VT4.6
copy them to your desktop and they will work.
Pete

[Rich Deustachio]

I have been doing the kill winRTME thing for a long time, can anyone tell me why we have to do this. I know what happens with the computer not shutting down properly, but why is this happening? Is this a Microsoft XP problem or a NewTek bug? I don't have any issues with having to turn this off on my non VT box.

[ScorpioProd]

I think it's more just the issue of WinRTME has to be always ready for when you suddenly send video/audio into the VT card or send video/audio out of the VT card. That's why it just eats up CPU cycles sitting there even if the majority of the time it is doing nothing. Somehow this also interferes with shutdown. It did for me under Windows 2000 and it still does with Windows XP SP2. I would put the shutdown issue a a Newtek bug with how WinRTME works.

[Rich Deustachio]

What if NewTek built in a shutdown of winRTME on the VT shutdown sequence? Seems like it would be easy to add.

[Pete Draves]

That would be fine... But, allthings that do sound or video will turn it back on again.
so when toaster is off no sound or video could be run thu the card.

That would be major "buttermilk through a plastic straw", big time!

put the shortcut on the taskbar and click once (like a mac) to kill
also you can re run it. these links were missing but I put them up for download in this thread.
good luck
Pete