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deandec
06-24-2003, 03:12 PM
Trying to create a workflow and having trouble finging an AVI format that works for us.


1.) rtv can't be read by anything else. Right?

2.) YUV2 and UYVY codecs look terrible. Anyone using them?

3.) BGR24 seems to look good. Anyone using that? Any problems with it?

4.) Toaster codec avi gets broken when copied so it's no good for us. No way around that right?

Many thanks for any info.

Paul Lara
06-24-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by deandec
YUV2 and UYVY codecs look terrible. Anyone using them?



I don't understand this, as UYVY should look just as good as RTV, since it is also uncompressed frames of video.


3.) BGR24 seems to look good. Anyone using that? Any problems with it?

Well, unless you have a system capable of playing back about 40MB/sec per stream, you may not want to use it. It's also RGB and not YUV.

VDI-Angus
06-24-2003, 05:03 PM
I've had the same quality issues with UYVY and YUY2. Both showed really nasty banding in TPMGEnc and Windows Media Player, but NOT VirtualDub. Happened both capturing direct, and rendering from RTV. I ended up working around it with the TMPGEnc RTV filter. Funny ol' systems, eh?

deandec
06-24-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Paul Lara
I don't understand this, as UYVY should look just as good as RTV, since it is also uncompressed frames of video.

I don't under stand it either. Would it help to upgrade from Windows Player 7.1?

Well, unless you have a system capable of playing back about 40MB/sec per stream, you may not want to use it. It's also RGB and not YUV.

I'd rather not do extra YUV->RGB conversions.

Are there no rtv reader plugins out there?

deandec
06-25-2003, 03:17 PM
For those interested I think I've solved part of the problem. UYVY codec seems to work fine if Direct X 9 is installed. I had a previous version which used msyuv.dll version 5.1 to decode. DirectX9 installed msyuv.dll version 5.3 and it decodes it properly. Apparently the files were encoded fine but windows wasn't decoding them properly. I noticed this because the DDR would play back the clips fine but the Windows player didn't. If you are having this problem I'd suggest upping to DirectX 9.

So now I want to know if I can use UYVY avi as the standard with Toaster and not hit any problems. Can I bag rtv's altogether?

Thanks.

deandec
06-25-2003, 03:27 PM
HOLD IT! Now I'm having a problem with my Toaster Codec AVIs under DirectX 9. They are totally solarized and upside down. There's no winning.......

deandec
06-25-2003, 03:49 PM
OK. I've got both the Toaster Codec and UYVY codecs going now. I backed down to DirectX 8.1 and have the "Ignore YUV formats for Video DEcompressing...." and "Prefer UYVY over YUV2" color space flags checked in the RTV codec window. Does this make sense. I'd love it if someone who knew would check me on this. ONce commited I'm going to be working with a lot of footage and I don't want to screw it up with the wrong codec.

Many thanks.