For you guys thinking of PTZs

[PIZAZZ]

I am anxiously awaiting my initial shipment of these little guys. High Definition PTZ under $4500. It uses the new CMOS chip so it should be interesting to see how things look with it. The great thing is this camera would be all you need for either SD or HD. You don't need all the extra cards and stuff like you do with the BRC300 or the BRC-H700 just to make the necessary connections. I will report back when I have a chance to put them through the paces.

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/images/product/front/evihd1.jpg


http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?m=10005&p=2&sp=22&id=86114

1/3 type CMOS image sensor
Approximately 2M effective pixels
Signal System: 1080/59.94i, 1080/50i, 1080/29.97p, 1080/25p, 720/59.94p, 720/50p, 720/29.97p, 720/25p, NTSC, PAL
Video Output: HD-SDI, HD Analog component(Y/Pb/Pr), VBS, Y/C
10x Optical, 40x digital zoom lens
RS-232C Camera Control Interface
6 position presets
Pan: -100 to +100 deg. (Max. speed 300 deg./sec)
Tilt: -25 to +25 deg. (Max. speed 125 deg./sec)
Minimum Illumination: 15lx (F1.8)
Horizontal viewing angle: 8° (Tele) to 70° (Wide)
Dimensions: 10-1/4 x 6 x 6-3/4 inches
Mass: 4 lbs. 7 oz.

[SachaG01]

Ouch - that's almost half what we paid for the H700's. Mind you - no genlock, SD component or SDI out, no remote aspect switching, no RS422 (232 only - limiting your remote cable distance) - Still, that's some severe progress, all the same ;-)

Would be interested to see/hear how they match up to their CCD counterpart in a studio environment...

Sacha.

[Videonut]

Jef,

These have an RS-232c interface. So what do these criters talk to as far as camera control? Is the interface a MIDI type or what? I very well might have an immediate desire for a couple of these.

Tom

[rbartlett]

RS232C (roughly equivalent of ITU V.28) means that this isn't a MIDI current-loop derived signal but a voltage derived (max12V, min-12V) signal, probably async characters like you get from a COM port (or usb derived COM port). The mini-DIN mentioned in the spec sounds like the Apple ADB type of low speed serial data jack. That is probably as far as the resemblance goes. It is probably neater for the unit to have that than a screw terminal DB9.

Alternative hookups - UWB kit can convey USB signals wirelessly, although low bitrate apps like async characters are beyond its main target. RS232C can also be conveyed over bluetooth, maybe on the ~100meter range kit too.

Dan Wolf at megagem.com would have a software solution for such a camera, if I'm not mistaken. Jef can supply and advise with the whole wrap, I'm quite sure of that.

[chribba]

More info!

http://picturephone.com/products/sony_evi_hd1.htm

chribba

[PIZAZZ]

Jef,

These have an RS-232c interface. So what do these criters talk to as far as camera control? Is the interface a MIDI type or what? I very well might have an immediate desire for a couple of these.

Tom

This question has a simple answer. Use the Sony RMBR300 controller as pictured below. You would need Visca cables or solutions like we sell over Cat5 to connect the control out of the Sony to the cameras. We already have a solution to do SD Video and RS232 Control up/down Cat5. We will have a HD version for the EVI-HD1 camera in a couple weeks.

http://picturephone.com/images/sony_rmbr300_remote_w_ptz_c.jpg


There is another controller from Telemetrics that is a little cheaper but it is not worth the price difference. The Sony controller is worth every penny. You can also use a controller from Vaddio that is around 3k. It is pretty cool too in that the control signal does not have to loop like with the Sony controller.

[PIZAZZ]

RS232C (roughly equivalent of ITU V.28) means that this isn't a MIDI current-loop derived signal but a voltage derived (max12V, min-12V) signal, probably async characters like you get from a COM port (or usb derived COM port). The mini-DIN mentioned in the spec sounds like the Apple ADB type of low speed serial data jack. That is probably as far as the resemblance goes. It is probably neater for the unit to have that than a screw terminal DB9.

Alternative hookups - UWB kit can convey USB signals wirelessly, although low bitrate apps like async characters are beyond its main target. RS232C can also be conveyed over bluetooth, maybe on the ~100meter range kit too.

Dan Wolf at megagem.com would have a software solution for such a camera, if I'm not mistaken. Jef can supply and advise with the whole wrap, I'm quite sure of that.

OH MY! Richard you absolutely kill me sometimes. I would love to sit down with you for a day and absorb your knowledge. You have got to be an engineer in real life.

Ok to simplify all the things you said above. Sony uses a protocol called VISCA which is RS232 underneath. It does use a 8 conductor miniDin connector. Which I HIGHLY suggest never to attempt to solder yourself.

[rbartlett]

Engineer - tick !

Plain ingerlish - crosses, yes plural

These VTs used to do people out of a job! I'm not so sure now. I think it brings all the people into the same space with all the lonely jobs stuck out there with lights, mics and cameras becoming a thing of the past.

My hat is off to you Jef, you bring the best gear together and a world of real experience. If we sat down, I'd be learning a lot more from you - your feet are on the ground and you paint in the sky so hard that the ideas become reality. Real hardware and solutions.

[PIZAZZ]

Engineer - tick !

Plain ingerlish - crosses, yes plural

These VTs used to do people out of a job! I'm not so sure now. I think it brings all the people into the same space with all the lonely jobs stuck out there with lights, mics and cameras becoming a thing of the past.

My hat is off to you Jef, you bring the best gear together and a world of real experience. If we sat down, I'd be learning a lot more from you - your feet are on the ground and you paint in the sky so hard that the ideas become reality. Real hardware and solutions.


Now Now you are making me blush.... :)


Thank you for the kind words. I look forward to the day we can actually get together and visit face to face. Come on over the pond for NAB and I will buy you a drink of your choice.

[ScorpioProd]

And believe me, Jef knows the right places to take you to at NAB! :D

[PIZAZZ]

And believe me, Jef knows the right places to take you to at NAB! :D

So then Eugene are you interested on a return trip?
Same table?
Same fun?

[appsyscons]

There is another controller from Telemetrics that is a little cheaper but it is not worth the price difference. The Sony controller is worth every penny. You can also use a controller from Vaddio that is around 3k. It is pretty cool too in that the control signal does not have to loop like with the Sony controller.


When you say 'the control signal does not have to loop like with the Sony' what exactly do you mean by loop.

[PIZAZZ]

When you say 'the control signal does not have to loop like with the Sony' what exactly do you mean by loop.

On the Sony controller, the control signal goes from the controller to the first camera. Then the VISCA signal comes out of the 1st camera to run to the 2nd Camera. Then out of the 2nd camera to the 3rd camera.... and so on.

With the VADDIO product, each camera gets a home run from the controller to each camera.

[Slapdash]

Jef - Had a chance to receive and review the new cameras? Interested to hear your thoughts.

[WWaters]

Jef,

I am also interested in your review of the HD-1. How do they compare to the BRC-300 on the SD side?

Thanks,