Speed Edit Release Event..... [Archive]

ScorpioProd

11-15-2006, 03:20 AM

You guys might want to check out the latest press release:

http://www.newtek.com/news/releases/11-13-06a.html

BTW, don't think I'm saying Newtek didn't suggest at NAB and thereafter that SpeedEDIT would be out this summer, they did...

But I think we've all been watching software development long enough to know that those things aren't really that predicatable. It's just the way it is.

I'd rather have it working and with a decent feature set rather than out on time buggy and with a limited feature set, and I'm sure you guys would as well.

Anytime you buy a product early, sight unseen, a product that hasn't been fully created yet, you are taking a risk on when it will be ready. It's a gamble.

badllarma

11-15-2006, 04:06 AM

With all due respect, we were promised a VT5 shipping date of "summer".

Yup :rolleyes:

Some info was posted about a UK release daye / perview as well but nothing has been mentioned sods law it will be an email say BTW special preview of Speededit tomorrow in London :bangwall:

Keith Nealy

11-15-2006, 04:20 AM

Why is nobody telling us about the show?

Maybe no one was impressed enough to write about it?

Someone on the safe harbor board said it didn't seem much different than 4.6, except for the new formats and voice over recording feature.

And he wouln't tell us how they were able to do realtime output of HD... what's the secret - did they make him swear not to tell?

Wasn't this the point of the event? - to spread the word?

What a bummer. I was all set to spend an evening reviewing some great new features...

Now we are back to waiting again.

steveg

11-15-2006, 04:25 AM

hey, thanks for bringing my anxiety back into check Eugene. Now, calmly I say, we just need to know when.

cholo

11-15-2006, 04:30 AM

I don't mind waiting for a product. I don't even mind waiting on a product I have already paid for. What I do mind, is being kept in the dark concerning it's development progress. It's becoming really frustrating.

Maybe I'm a bit too optimistic, but I had confidence NewTek would deliver on time. I find it sad to admit this, but if I treated my deadlines the way NewTek has gotten used to lately, I would be out of a job by now, despite the high quality of my productions.

wvp

11-15-2006, 08:53 AM

Randall Chesbro

11-15-2006, 09:29 AM

what time do they get to work?

chuckd

11-16-2006, 12:10 AM

With all due respect, we were promised a VT5 shipping date of "summer".

I don't remember having ever heard that VT 5 would ship at the end of summer. What NewTek originally said was that SpeeEDIT would be released at the end of summer and that VT 5 would be out shortly thereafter. And what they said was that those dates were the plan. They never promised anything.

toasterhombre

11-16-2006, 11:25 AM

You know what was great about the launch events? It was not just die hard NewTek customers that showed up in fact at the Miami event more than half were not NewTek customers. I had people from Haiti, Honduras and puero rico fly in for the event.

The guys from honduras were all set to buy a few matrox systems and freaked when he saw SE and now is getting 3 systems built for SE. He was asking me what video card he needs. . . . .lol. . . .I said a 1394 card as they do everything in DV.

The woman from a haitian TV station told me if I ever do a demo in miami, to email her and she will fly up. I may actually do a demo in the Dominican Republic and she would be able to drive to that.

Bottom line is all attendees were blown away by SE. I demoed mostly the stuff that makes SE different and faster, the NewTek editing paradigm vs the more linear paradigm most NLEs have.

Also some selective color correction, image stabilization and layering of SD and HD footage in the same project.

Speaking totally serious here...
If Newtek "launched" SpeedEdit lastnight it must not be a very good product. I have not found ONE person who has said ONE thing about the launch - this includes Newtek people.
Unfortunately I got suckered into pre purchasing, have heard all the hype about, and now that the product has been officially "launched" no one can say anything about it.
Newtek, you guys need to hire a new marketing person.

Slapdash

11-16-2006, 11:35 AM

Was this a press event or a launch event? Is speededit now shipping?

toasterhombre

11-16-2006, 12:00 PM

It was a launch event. Shipping is coming soon!

Curtis

11-16-2006, 12:35 PM

I attended the one in LA. It was pretty much the same presentation as they gave last summer in Phoenix.

My biggest dissapointment was that the presentation was geared toward new customers who have never used VT before. Very little information was given to compare Speed Edit with the current VT4 edit. I really wanted to find out what was new. The only thing I saw or heard was about it being able to handle multple formats. I knew that! I am still not sure if it is worth getting compared to VT5.

There was also too much sales pitch for 3D Arsenal. That was not what I came from Arizona to hear about.

Paul Lara

11-16-2006, 01:47 PM

My biggest dissapointment was that the presentation was geared toward new customers who have never used VT before. Very little information was given to compare Speed Edit with the current VT4 edit.

You can look over a detailed list of SpeedEDIT features (http://www.newtek.com/speededit/features.php) to judge for yourself, Curtis.

Let me know if you have any additional questions.

SBowie

11-17-2006, 05:02 PM

I find it sad to admit this, but if I treated my deadlines the way NewTek has gotten used to lately, I would be out of a job by now, despite the high quality of my productions.I can't let this slip by without saying that NewTek rolled their delivery deadline back with significant reluctance, and did so almost entirely (TTBOMK) as a result of a decision to honor a plethora of requests for added features for the initial release.

They did not arrive at this decision lightly, and the overall reaction when the postponement was announced about 2 months back was appreciation.

cholo

11-17-2006, 05:22 PM

I can only speak for myself. I would have preferred to start using SE a few months ago and wait for a point whatever version to add the extra features instead. I don't say things like I did in my post above just to be negative or critical. I say it as a concerned customer who absolutely loves the products this particular company creates, who believes in the dev team enough to preorder the product sight unseen, hoping my comments will help address potential weaknessess to ensure the success of a company and product which are in my best interest to succeed. I have tried competing products and I don't want to be stuck having to use them because NewTek failed in a very tough market against lesser products. I also think the rapidly growing HD market will eventually hit critical mass and timing is very important for market penetration. I'm sorry, but I can't applaud delays for a product that is just entering a market where the competition is already at second generation and becoming widely adopted. This is my perception of things. I hope my ranting doesn't go unnoticed by the SE team and helps push things forward.

Seattle-HotShot

11-17-2006, 06:18 PM

Actually, I am another user of VT that wouldn't have minded getting a "prerelease" version of SE a few months ago. Especially since I paid for my VT upgrade back in June or when ever it was. I know that eventually (soon now right?) that I'll get my real version of SE. But wow, that would have been cool to get some of the developement versions sooner. I've tested other programs that I knew were beta, so you go in knowing its not quite ready.

And like also posted, here and other places like the VTNT list, which way to you go, wait till its all ready, or get something out there and then fix it in the next release? Either way, people gripe... :)

Keepin' the faith...

ted

11-17-2006, 06:42 PM

Either way, people gripe...

Yup, it's a tough call. But as Steve said, there was concern that a new product with too few features would have been met with a "Pass on that product" impression.
I'm sure it will still be picked on by many for what it doesn't have though.

Cholo, I can understand your side and you said it well. But there is always that balance to meet. NewTek probably got it close on this one though IMHO.

Soon we'll see what the general public feels.

By the way, it's not already a couple months late is it?

toasterhombre

11-17-2006, 06:57 PM

These are demo events not training seminars and as such one would hope most of the attendees were new to NewTek products. That is the idea of doing product demos. . . to get people to see your products.

I for one am very happy to see a bunch of new users turn up at these tour and launch events. I am more than happy to meet loyal VT and NT customers and hang around to answer their questions as best I can. . . .but you have to remember these are sales and marketing events.

I attended the one in LA. It was pretty much the same presentation as they gave last summer in Phoenix.

My biggest dissapointment was that the presentation was geared toward new customers who have never used VT before. Very little information was given to compare Speed Edit with the current VT4 edit. I really wanted to find out what was new. The only thing I saw or heard was about it being able to handle multple formats. I knew that! I am still not sure if it is worth getting compared to VT5.

There was also too much sales pitch for 3D Arsenal. That was not what I came from Arizona to hear about.

SBowie

11-17-2006, 08:00 PM

NewTek probably got it close on this one though IMHO.
The other thing that was a frequent chorus was that the first version out the door should be rock solid, as first impressions are going to be important. SE is very stable.

ScorpioProd

11-17-2006, 08:19 PM

Of course, there is beta and then there is beta... It's really silly to speculate how good it may have been early or how much of a dog it may have been...

Having beta tested other products in the past, I can tell you that a lot of products aren't ready at all till their real release. The thought that a product in beta is better than nothing simply isn't often the case. Not to mention the tech support nightmare for Newtek in such a situation. And more importantly the press review reaction.

And as has been pointed out, if it was something with much less features than expected, it could turn off the public to it for good.

For instance, I've heard a number of people in other forums say they have been burned by 1.0 products before and would NEVER touch a 1.0 product again. SE 1.0 has got to be perfectly stable, and decently reviewed, if it is going to have a chance in the marketplace it is entering.

In all the betaing I've ever done, I can honestly say that most of the beta products weren't of benefit to me till they were ready to ship.

WizCraker

11-17-2006, 08:32 PM

Speaking totally serious here...
If Newtek "launched" SpeedEdit lastnight it must not be a very good product. I have not found ONE person who has said ONE thing about the launch - this includes Newtek people.
Unfortunately I got suckered into pre purchasing, have heard all the hype about, and now that the product has been officially "launched" no one can say anything about it.
Newtek, you guys need to hire a new marketing person.

Warning from the wise, never pre-order anything from NewTek they always miss their release date and you could always use that capital for something else just in case. LW 9 was a good 6 months off from their original December Release schedule. 9 wasn't the only time this has happened.

I was kind of disappointed that NewTek said at SIGGRAPH that it would be a Summer Release and here we are 3 days after the suppose launch and still no SpeedEdit. NewTek needs to learn from the past that announcing something and not delivering is not only bad press but also puts a sour taste in potential customers. As I posted somewhere else NewTek Sales told me they probably will not ship until after Thanksgiving. They gave an excuse about the software boxes were not in yet.

Jim_C

11-17-2006, 08:53 PM

I heard it is going to be Christmas shipping because Paul is hand coloring all of the box artwork with dull Crayon's.

:D

Seattle-HotShot

11-17-2006, 09:09 PM

Now that's Funny...

cholo

11-17-2006, 10:04 PM

I think the root of the problem isn't the missed summer deadline. The real concern for many is that Speededit is not a few weeks late, but rather a few years late. How long has HDV been around? The JVC GR-HD1U debuted in 2003! I know it was way too early back then, but the future was clear. Then enter the sony FX1/Z1 in 2004, the first widely accepted professional HDV camera. NLE manufacturers started scrambling to add HDV support and meanwhile NewTek kept a see no evil stance. 2 years passed (!) and finally it was announced at NAB we were getting HD support with VT5 and SpeedEdit. Many were considering jumping ship by then (I know I was) because HD had long since become an affordable means of production, there were many flavors of cameras from lots of different manufacturers, and even if HD delivery is not mandatory yet for most, the extra quality HD represents even for SD production was too good to pass. But SpeedEdit caught us by surprise and we (at least I) decided it was worth waiting "little" longer. How long? Until summer. Early? Late? Who knows. Some speculated early summer and the pessimists predicted late. I know I've been wrangling my HDV material around with HDV split, virtualdub, HDTVtoMPEG2 and whatnot. Awkward workflows, intense rendering, hours lost. I wanted to start taking advantage of all those extra pixels right away, and after all it was a temporary solution until SE arrived. And then summer came and went and there was nay a word from the Mothership. The VT forums were quieter than I've ever seen them. Then an announcement... Launch programmed for the end of september. WHEW! No more transcoding, hooray!... Oops! No wait, cancelled until further notice. What? So we wait... and we wait... Nov 14th is finally announced. At first, it is hinted by some that copies will be sold at the event. After all, it is only natural to assume this because the software has already been demoed and announced at NAB, so what else could a "Launch" mean right? Wrong! We're told it's not going to be ready, but there's lots of new features so that should make up for it, right? But then the event comes and for the first 48 or so hours after the event, none of those who attended seems to have anything good to say about it. And as of today, roughly 3 years and 6 months after the first HDV cameras started shipping we still have no set date for delivery. That's the kind of frustration that has driven people like me to post such negative thoughts. But on the bright side of things, NewTek's team's presence on the boards these past few hours, along with the new SpeedEdit forums, have really given me some peace of mind. I now feel like things are moving along and the hope of being close to delivery has been restored. I see much needed activity back at the boards and I get excited about it again. Sometimes, gestures as simple as a reminder that we're not the only ones burning the midnight oil help us bear through times as difficult as these last 2 months of uncertainty and doubt. I just hope it arrives before my trial of Vegas 7 expires because I now know I will not be buying it :)

John Perkins

11-17-2006, 10:46 PM

We understand your frustration, but there was really nothing we could do that made more sense. The delay HAS produced a better product because of input from the beta users and extended testing.

One reason that I've been so quiet is because I haven't been able to stop working on SE long enough to sleep, much less post.

When those little yellow guys stop being plastered all over the forums, know that there is a LOT of stuff going on behind the scenes ;)

Thanks for sticking with us! :beerchug:

wvp

11-18-2006, 12:26 AM

John, one thing that could have been done would be to post an update message ~ Something to indicate that things are progressing, perhaps slower than desired, changes are being made and some of the features you will see as soon as we can finalize are xxx.

Tony R

11-18-2006, 12:56 AM

I must be real patient, because as much as I am dying to get SE, I have no problem waiting. I saw the launch and I was impressed with all of the formats that can be mixed and matched in a single project. I loved the new DVD output options (no more third party TMPGEnc)! The speed was great (no waiting to render).

I still have my 4.6 and can work with it. And I pre-paid, which means that SE is free. As for having to edit HD, Newtek really isnt that late, because before DH DVD and Blu Ray, there was almost no ways to deliver you HD anyway back in 2004 and 2005.

I say hang in there. It will be worth the wait. Dont worry that none of us left the launch jumping for joy. Maybe it is because we pretty much know what to expect and we saw it. The features are someone transparent to the user. I am glad it does HD, Quicktime, etc, plus no Toaster card is needed. And it is only $595. That is not asking much for what it can do. Be patient. I surely dont sit around looking at the clock for MS Office 2008 to be released. I use Office 2003 til it is. SE is in Beta but it's close to release. I dont blame NT for making sure it is stable. And from what I hear, it works under Vista too.

KSTAR

11-18-2006, 01:06 AM

. And it is only $595. That is not asking much for what it can do.

That would be $495 and cheaper than that through online retailers ;)

ScorpioProd

11-18-2006, 02:15 AM

I loved the new DVD output options (no more third party TMPGEnc)!

Well, I think it's great that it can render to many outputs natively, but I certainly wouldn't say "no more third-party TMPGEnc" at this point.

Until independant comparisons are made, we have no idea on true quality and speed and configurabilty, not only for TMPGEnc, but also WME 9 and QT 7 Pro, compared to SpeedEDIT's encoder.

Tony R

11-18-2006, 10:25 AM

That would be $495 and cheaper than that through online retailers ;)

I was under the impression that $495 was the launch price. The flyer I got in NY said the $495 price expired on 11/17/06.

Tony R

11-18-2006, 10:29 AM

Well, I think it's great that it can render to many outputs natively, but I certainly wouldn't say "no more third-party TMPGEnc" at this point.

I just meant that TMPGEnc would not be needed anymore. I do not like performing extra steps and, that is what has to be done with TMPGEnc. For all I know, it is the only encoder that recognizes RTV files. I would be much happier going straight from the timeline to DVD.

evexon

11-18-2006, 12:13 PM

I think the root of the problem isn't the missed summer deadline. The real concern for many is that Speededit is not a few weeks late, but rather a few years late.
You nailed my thoughts exactly. I am hanging on to see what SE has to offer. I really don't want to find another editing program.

Jim_C

11-18-2006, 12:29 PM

If I was continually losing money, having to turn down gigs, or causing myself hours of wasted time jumping thru hoops and rendering because I didn't want to change programs.... I would change programs.

Maybe that's just me.

Jim

evexon

11-18-2006, 02:36 PM

Seattle-HotShot

11-18-2006, 02:46 PM

Jim

You have a good point there. Some of us on the various lists are looking at NLE systems from a religeous zealot frame of mind. Like the OS wars that pop up so often. Sheesh. I like how several have pointed out on the VTNT and other places... Its just a tool. If the tool works, great. I know before I got my VT, I had a work flow that involved Paint Shop Pro (for titles), AE for motion effects and compositing, Premiere 6 as my editor, Media Studio for other editing (it had 1 or 2 effects I thought were cool), TMPG for encoding and DVD Authoring, and probably a bag of chicken bones for good luck. At the time I was using 5 or 6 computers, with some of the programs loaded on 2 or 3 different computers. I could capture on one, network the files over, render my out put to the 3rd computer, let the MPEG encode over night, and start on the next project. If I had a Mac, I'd be all over things like Motion. And some times when I get bored I'll load Linux on a spare computer, just to watch it install. I used to be a tech / MCSE. But when it comes right down to it, We're here to make cool video. The customer could care less what program it was cut on.

I was watching that Revolution video on YouTube yesterday... ****, I felt myself wanting to go buy one of those :) I almost forgot what I could do now with so much less hardware (no VCRs, etc) You guys who used the original Toasters Rocked!

So yeah, if a better tool comes along, and you can get a job done faster, or do something really great with it, fine. But being loyal to someone like NewTek is good too.

There are times I start to think that the Software as a Service people might have something there. How cool would it to be to download a program, pay a small fee to licence it for 2 or 3 weeks, and then dump it when you're done? I mean, I'd buy my main programs, but to do some special FX now and then... say something maybe even simple, like there were people asking about a second seat of SE for occasional use. Granted, its only a $500 program, so not a huge deal. But if I could put it on a second laptop for $50 and use it for a month, that might be tempting. Use the laptop for live capture of a show, etc. Or to use Lightwave for a short project, to have an extra 5 modelers working on a 2 month project.

Ok, maybe I should grab some lunch, I must be hungry...

Carlin

Seattle-HotShot

11-18-2006, 02:51 PM

Quick follow up:
I think the Software as a Service makes a bit more sense if you think of it like renting a car. Even if you have a car, maybe you need to rent a van one weekend, or a little sports car to drive over the mountains for a weekend, instead of driving your work van. Or like how the smart video guys are renting a really good camera package for a big job, instead of shooting it with maybe some older gear they have. And, in the end, its just an idea. Maybe someone things its a good one. If not, hey, no big deal.
Lunch time :)

John Perkins

11-18-2006, 02:56 PM

If I was continually working with 2K images, having to color correct 10 bit and higher footage, or causing myself headaches because I need an EDL exported... I would change programs.

But VT and SE for SD and HD would remain my best friends. :)

Maybe that's just me.

Steve

SpeedEDIT can handle multilayered 2k projects in realtime on my year and a half old system and import and export EDLs.

It's video-centric and YUV through the whole pipeline. It actually uses 16bit floating point YUV in critical parts of the image processing. Never lower than 8bit YUV, which has a larger range of colors than 8bit RGB can display.

For any format that we can work with, the color range is more than sufficient.

Yep, it'll be your best friend ;)

evexon

11-18-2006, 04:12 PM

SpeedEDIT can handle multilayered 2k projects in realtime on my year and a half old system and import and export EDLs.
Cool. I was pretty late to the Launch event, inexperience with LA traffic, but I thought I heard HD as the max output limit and no EDL export in version 1.0. If that is not true what is the max output size and can you export EDL?

John Perkins

11-18-2006, 04:25 PM

You can use up to 2k by 2k projects. In the future this may be expanded.

For output you have to be careful. Most sizes for 2k film are really odd resolutions (not actually 2048) and so they can't be compressed with many codecs. They aren't divisible by 16 for example.

SpeedHQ can handle them, but MPEG2 can't. That's one reason that image sequences are so common in film work.

EDL's can be imported and exported in most common formats or CSV files. (I don't have them memorized)

John Perkins

11-18-2006, 04:32 PM

BTW, you can have larger images than the project size limit.

You can use use images that are several megapixels in size. This will put a correspondingly heavy load on the computer however, so unless you need to pan and scan within it you will probably be better off working closer to the project resolution.

I didn't want people to get the wrong idea.

KSTAR

11-18-2006, 11:47 PM

I was under the impression that $495 was the launch price. The flyer I got in NY said the $495 price expired on 11/17/06.

Its listed online for $469.99 as of today

blueisland

11-20-2006, 11:02 AM

Will SE manage RAW files. I'm thinking of the Red camera at red.com which claims to shoot at 4k using raw files. I rather expect my computer could not handle this but can the software do it. Thanks

evexon

11-20-2006, 12:06 PM

Will SE manage RAW files. I'm thinking of the Red camera at red.com which claims to shoot at 4k using raw files. I rather expect my computer could not handle this but can the software do it. Thanks
With RED there is Uncompressed RAW, REDCODE RAW and REDCINE. The word is that REDCODE can be used in any application that accepts Quicktime, which SE does. But if that doesn't work you can REDCINE to any video or still frame codec you want. Since both SE and RED are vaporware at this point we might need to wait and see.

Personally I think it would be really great if SE could be made to handle a variety of still frame formats like Digital Fusion offers. I have no idea what that would mean in terms of programming complexity but I know when wearing my 3D animator and compositing hats I work with image sequences.

Paul Lara

11-20-2006, 12:39 PM

Personally I think it would be really great if SE could be made to handle a variety of still frame formats like Digital Fusion offers.

SpeedEDIT will import any Targa sequence instantly as a clip ready for playback or compositing! :D

So, any image format you'd like, as long as it's .tga. ;)

evexon

11-20-2006, 12:58 PM

SpeedEDIT will import any Targa sequence instantly as a clip ready for playback or compositing! :D

So, any image format you'd like, as long as it's .tga. ;)

Great, I can't wait to feed SE a 4520 X 2540 32 bit image sequence. :)

mikey007

11-20-2006, 05:21 PM

My belief is that they needed some capital to build probally their greatest acheivement and used us the toaster fanatics to do it. From what i've read and the history newtek has this new product is going to knock our socks off.
Price is right and fcp is getting up there im willing to wait a little longer on my 500 dollars to pay off..
Toaster Dude

Paul Lara

11-20-2006, 06:44 PM

Great, I can't wait to feed SE a 4520 X 2540 32 bit image sequence. :)

:(

SpeedEDIT is a 2K (high-definition) editor, and as such, has a max resolution of 2880x1920.

evexon

11-21-2006, 12:33 AM

:(

SpeedEDIT is a 2K (high-definition) editor, and as such, has a max resolution of 2880x1920.
So much for resolution independence. :(

What was Mr. Perkins referring to when he said, "use images that are several megapixels in size."?

I am half joking anyways, I wouldn't expect anything to play back 4520 X 2540 sequences in real time. But couldn't you free the resolution and let SE back round render the honking big files? I would bet SE would be faster then anything else on the planet that is priced under $500. :)

Mike Maier

11-21-2006, 03:50 AM

:(

SpeedEDIT is a 2K (high-definition) editor, and as such, has a max resolution of 2880x1920.

Isn't or wasn't it being marketed as an resolution independent application?

badllarma

11-21-2006, 04:09 AM

Hi Paul and the rest of the Newtek team I updated my VT2 system to VT 4.6 including upgrade to VT 5 I also did it at the time of you promoting the free copy of SpeedEdit.

When it is finally released how will I receive my copy of SpeedEdit? will it be download or via Newtek Europe or Via my reseller in the UK?

blueisland

11-21-2006, 09:28 AM

Strange I thought I read "resolution independent" - I assumed this meant the software cane handle any resolution so long as the hardware could handle it. Don't get me wrong I am very grateful for the normal HD capability but Newtek need to watch this claim.

I have no intentions of working with such large file - but I bet someone out there will buy SE wishing for resolution independence and be disappointed.

Curtis

11-21-2006, 09:44 AM

I was at the launch in LA. He was demonstrating making keyframes on a overlay. I thought I saw him press something to automaticaly add a ease in /ease out. Is that something new? It would be nice to not have to manualy adjust the splines.

billmi

11-21-2006, 09:50 AM

Resolution independent does not mean capable of unlimited resolution.

SE is Resolution Independent because it allows multiple resolutions to be used within the same project without having to convert or re-format them first. I.e. it is not dependant on all of the clips being of matched resolutions.

robewil

11-21-2006, 12:08 PM

What was Mr. Perkins referring to when he said, "use images that are several megapixels in size."?Well, technically, 2880X1920 is over 5 megapixels in size.

John Perkins

11-21-2006, 12:43 PM

evexon

11-21-2006, 02:22 PM

I thought it was pretty clear, the projects are limited to 2k, but footage is not.

There are practical limits on what can be edited with available RAM and CPU power, but no software limitation on the resolution of imported images.

In other words, with a 10k x 10k file it won't be SpeedEDIT's fault if you run out of memory or it won't play back in realtime. ;)

Ok, do I believe you or Paul? :)

I anticipate some pain if I choose to load a pile of 4K tga's I just wanted to know if SE was going to try and stop me. Happy to here it is not. ;)

Now get to work on that multi file format 32 bit float capability. :D