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bbeanan
06-13-2003, 06:37 PM
So every project I have done in the past has always been stanard NTSC video...

Well I am finishing up a project and my client just asked me if I could make some copies in PAL format (DVD is the finished media). Like all of us do I said sure no problem....

Ok not that I dug the hole and jumped in what is the process to output a DVD in PAL... I assume I need to rerender, then reencode (with TMPGEnc) and finally reauthor the DVD all using the PAL format... Is this right? or can I just re-encode in TMPGEnc letting that do the conversion?

Thanks in advance.

Lightwolf
06-15-2003, 06:09 AM
Hi bbeanan,
I just had to do a job going the reverse way. I used a Matrox AVI (PAL) as the raw footage, and used a script for AVISynth to do the standards conversion, then sent that to TMPGEnc. Don't let TMPGEnc do the conversion, it will suck (field ordering being one of the issues).

With the toaster it should be easier: set your project to PAL, export, encode.

Cheers,
Mike

bbeanan
06-15-2003, 09:53 AM
I'll give it a shot....

Lightwolf
06-17-2003, 03:49 AM
Hi bbeanan,
Did you get the conversion to work? How did you do it?
Cheers,
'Nosy' Mike

bbeanan
06-17-2003, 08:38 AM
Actually just started it last night... on one computer I took my NTSC AVI file and ran it through TMPGEnc and let it do the conversion.... On my VT computer I re-rendered the file in PAL format, and used TMPGEncto convert to MPG...
Both computer are almost done and we will see...

Eye_Candy
06-18-2003, 10:28 AM
Yeah, I had something similar. I had an NTSC project that was all done and finished, and then the client said that they also wanted a PAL version. So, I just re-rendered the project again in VT [2 only into PAL (uncompressed avi) this time, and it didn't look so hot. It was very blurry looking. Maybe it was trying to stack frames together so that it could drop those 4.97 frames, i dunno... But nevertheless, it looked bad, so I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas. btw I convert into mpeg2 with Sorenson Squeeze 3.5 (great program!), and I tried to just take my uncompressed NTSC avi and just make a PAL mpeg2, but it dropped frames and was very jumpy and jerky. If anyone could help that'd be great! Thanks

bbeanan
06-18-2003, 10:43 AM
I ended up doing the convertion with TMGPEnc and granted I did not have the time to watch the entire PAL DVD (it's 01:08:07:23 long) it looked pretty good. I had to get the discs out to Finland almost as fast as they came out of my duplicator (I just got a new Primera DVD Bravo... and I love it)

irfan
06-23-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Eye_Candy
So, I just re-rendered the project again in VT [2 only into PAL (uncompressed avi) this time, and it didn't look so hot. It was very blurry looking. Maybe it was trying to stack frames together so that it could drop those 4.97 frames, i dunno... But nevertheless, it looked bad, so I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas.

I've always had this problem. When I first posted it, I seem to remember other people saying that they were happy with the PAL output. The output I get from T[2] when converting an NTSC project into PAL is pretty horrible. Still haven't debugged it fully.

Ideas welcome!

Irfan

tmon
11-21-2005, 05:08 PM
I just got the same request for PAL versions of an NTSC DVD I already sent out and haven't gone through the procedures discussed here.

Regarding the PAL conversions looking bad, isn't there a frame rate conversion that has to happen somewhere?

Can TMPGEnc handle that?