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starbase1
07-26-2006, 05:33 AM
I thought others might be interested in my opinions on the ASile FX viue training videos, "Getting started with Vue Infinite".

I have not watched everything yet, but I think the pattern is pretty clear.

There is about 3 hours of material here, ($45), and it tries to cover a lot of ground, from moving the camera, up to plants, ecosystems and underwater effects.

The video quality is good, nice and sharp, (quicktime) and the presenter has a clear easy to understand voice.

I think it is perhaps kindest to view this as a sort of guided tour rather than a tutorial in specific techniques. I picked up quite a bit from just watching the way the presenter moved around the program - as many have commented, the interface is VERY different in style to LW. He clearly knows his stuff, but I feel there are some major problems here.

1. Lack of focus. There's a lot of mucking about, with no clear goal beyond trying lots of options. So there is very little stuff actually produced while you watch.

2. Zero renders done. Sometimes very interesting looking effects are discussed, (I was very interested in some of the more exotic sky phenomena, like halos), but you NEVER seem to see a render, you attention is just directed at the preview window. If you are showing off a program, and making people want to use it, this seems a glaring ommision.

3. Lack of editing of the video. It's very much start and charge on through, even when there are clearly problems - for example, the presenter never found the rainbow he created in the scene.

There are a couple of supplied sample files, but they are very minor.

Despite these flaws, I did pick up a lot of information about what was possible with the software, but I really can't recommend it as it stands.

It really does come across as rather lazy.

Nick

Penforhire
07-26-2006, 10:29 AM
I haven't tried those vids yet. I just started their Advanced Vue series (heh, figured I'd be more able to to handle the basics on my own...wrong!) and the first several MOV segments on disk one seem a touch better than that.

Still not as focussed as they should be. I see the topics as unconnected with not enough finished-work goals. It is still valuable to see how the advanced tools operate (and the interface is a marvel of hidden right-clicks and cryptic icons) but it would be much more valauble to watch someone get a pre-visualized thing done.

PM me if you ever decide to sell those vids. I have the feeling they'd still be good for me (as in, what other good Vue 5 training tools are there?).

oDDity
07-26-2006, 12:23 PM
The gnomon workshop has a Vue training DVD.
http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/esu03.html

digefxgrp
07-26-2006, 12:54 PM
I totally agree with starbase1.

At the very least the author should have done a step–by-step tut on how he did each of the DVD cover images.

Penforhire
07-26-2006, 01:23 PM
oDDity, thanks for the link! Has anyone tried Mr. Summer's videos?

starbase1
07-26-2006, 02:19 PM
(and the interface is a marvel of hidden right-clicks and cryptic icons)


Blobs on knobs! The thing I hate most about Vue!

starbase1
07-26-2006, 02:21 PM
The gnomon workshop has a Vue training DVD.
http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/esu03.html

That certainly sounds more promising... Has anyone tried it? There seems to be a LOT of Material there...

Sarford
07-27-2006, 06:27 AM
I have the Gnomon Vue video. I haven't have time to watch it all but I was rather pleased with the quality.
I certanly learned a thing or two. This video points you in the right direction but I for one would love to have a 'this is how you make cool landscapes' video. Still a lot of trial and error but thats how you learn a program I guess.

I can recomend this video to people wanting to learn Vue, defenetly value for money.

lwaddict
07-27-2006, 09:00 AM
Excellent reference with Gnome...thanks.

I found some awesome ZBrush tutorials in there as well!!!