Live Broadcast

[oco]

I'm considering to buy VT[2]-VT[3] as a substitution for
broadcast mixer.
Did someone have expiriance with VT live broadcasting?
Stability of VT?
If i add two 3port Adaptec IEEE1394 card, do i have 6 DV inputs
for live switch.

[Paul Lara]

Originally posted by oco
If i add two 3port Adaptec IEEE1394 card, do i have 6 DV inputs for live switch.

Yes, you do (in VT [3]).

[takabanana]

Paul,
if in T3, it uses (has the capability to use; but if one were to use for specifically) Firewire cards as (the only) inputs.. i.e. live switching and capturing their program out to the hard drive... what exactly is the VT card used for in that process (besides outputting the final video....)?

if that made no sense: What is the VT card used as/for from the T3 software environment, if Firewire cards are being used as live (or post) inputs to capture footage?

-taka

[Paul Lara]

Originally posted by takabanana
Paul,
What is the VT card used as/for from the T3 software environment, if Firewire cards are being used as live (or post) inputs to capture footage?



Keeping the tachyons aligned. :P

[Gordon]

There's that huge programmable array on the VT card. I bet it has something to do with all the real time stuff.

For example, real time colour correction - even on DV inputs - can't do that on any other DV system.

Real time audio mixing from each of the DV camera mics!

Even the fact that you can have six camera inputs from only 2 DV cards - haven't seen that on any other computer based system neither.

I think the VT card is used a lot - maybe as sort of a software assist. Just a guess, mind you.

[Paul Lara]

Originally posted by Gordon
There's that huge programmable array on the VT card. I bet it has something to do with all the real time stuff.

Just a guess, mind you.

Actually, that guess would be incorrect, Gordon. ;)

Every real-time function you enjoy in VT's integrated environment is purely the result of brilliant, and hyper-efficient code. Software. All of it.

:D

[Gordon]

Another illusion shattered. Thanks for clarifying.

I guess this means that with another method of protection agains piracy, (perhaps a USB dongle), VT[x] could really be released for a laptop, for field editing. I know some of my VT customers have already bought Adobe premiere, Vegas Video, etc. for use on another machine including laptops.

In fact a USB dongle protected release along with hard drives mounted in a removeable frame, (similar to hot swap frames), would allow projects to be mobile. Off-line editor, on-line editor, studio, or home.

I too put my vote in for a laptop capable VT[x] software only release.

[oco]

I have so many questions....

Is it possible to CAPTURE and EDIT while i'm broadcasting for example some movie from vhs vcr (not from disk)?

[Paul Lara]

Originally posted by oco
I have so many questions....

Fire away! ;)


Is it possible to CAPTURE and EDIT while i'm broadcasting for example some movie from vhs vcr (not from disk)?

Not really, as your edit session would be hitting the program out stream.

[kleima]

It is possible to play back a project in real time and capture the output directly back onto the hard drive, though!! (Assuming you have fast enough drives!)

[RomainR]

You could just simply render out the project instead of playing it and recording it. Besides, you can render and keep working on something else as you render.

[Paul Lara]

Now that I re-think the question, yes you can capture while you edit. You can select a particular input as your capture stream, and have it running in the background while you edit away.

[Gordon]

And you can always put TED on Preview and live camera(s) on Program/Main.

In reality, editing during a live production is not all that workable because the switcher will need to do 'Takes' or keep stealing the preview bus for a live camera use. Then there is the problem with keyboard focus as well. With the keyboard focus on TED, the function keys take on a different meaning and don't to camera takes. The switcher person has to use the mouse to click on the switcher buttons.

However, we do use TED in storyboard mode, as a DDR, because you can make the clip icons really large. This is a one person job, clicking on the clip, hitting the letter 'q' to go to the begining of the clip, etc. In fact, I have had to write a couple custom Toasterscripts to make it work the way I needed it to. But you can do simple stuff like trimming, adding clips, rearranging the order, adding effects.

[RomainR]

If you don't need to use overlays while you switch, you can put Ted on the DSK and keep the DSk off in the switcher and then
use a toaster vision to monitor on the DSK channel

[Jim Capillo]

Originally posted by Gordon
Then there is the problem with keyboard focus as well. With the keyboard focus on TED, the function keys take on a different meaning and don't to camera takes. The switcher person has to use the mouse to click on the switcher buttons.


I'm surprised no one has mentioned the RS-8 switcher here. Doesn't that negate the keyboard focus issue? Couldn't the TD just happily switch away while other people are doing different tasks?

[Gordon]

Originally posted by RomainR
If you don't need to use overlays while you switch, you can put Ted on the DSK and keep the DSk off in the switcher and then
use a toaster vision to monitor on the DSK channel

Great idea Romain!



Jim Capillo: I've thought about using the RS-8 for just such a reason as that. Could be a huge advantage for the RS-8 hardware switcher.

[RomainR]

I used that set up for a special event during a film festival.

there were several teams of directors and editors and musiciens, etc...

We had 48 hrs to produce a short film to be screened during the festival, and that over a period of 10 days.

I was the only one there with a PC based system, everybody else were on mac with FCP.

The first day I was laughed at and made fun of. By the end of the gig I was rendering anims for openning credits, feeding chromakeys as a reference for some that were shooting stop animations on blue screens and editing with TED on the DSK channel. All that and not one glitch whatsover. I was amazed at all that the T[2] can take on.

[Jim Capillo]

Originally posted by RomainR
The first day I was laughed at and made fun of.

Romain,

Were those nitwit elitists laughing at you at the end ?????

;) :p

[RomainR]

They stopped laughing when I starting laughing at them because they were rendeing out their final cuts.