Ahhh, the trick about skelegon creation !

[Emmanuel]

Hi,

could it be I have seen the light after so many moons ?
Could it be that when the manual says You need to create the skelegons in the window that's orthogonal to the pitch rotation You want, it also means that You should MIRROR the skelegons only in that window ?
Last night I found that when I create the left side of a character rig then mirror it *correctly*, both sides have the "good" rotational settings, while when I mirror the rig in the wrong viewport, both sides are NOT identical when it comes to rotation in Layout...head scratching...maybe this solves my RPR phobia...

[SplineGod]

I tend to avoid the problem entirely by not using skelegons and creating the bones directly in layout. :)

[Emmanuel]

Ya know, old habits never die ;)

[SplineGod]

So true :)

[ercaxus]

I think there was a plugin called "skelegon editor" that could mirror them properly. I don't know what happened to it though.
Also that plugin was able to parent skelegons without connecting them. I remember it was crashing a lot.

[SplineGod]

The bone tools in layout have some nice mirroring options including being able to mirror the IKgoals and several renaming options.

[ercaxus]

Yeah, I agree, they are great but sometimes it's nice to have undo. I mess things up a lot:D

[SplineGod]

True, but I still find it easier to do most of this in layout since its pretty easy to delete the mirrored bones and mirror them again. Skelegons IMO have way too many gotchas compared to using bones especially if you havent used them that much. :)

[ercaxus]

I was doing rigging mainly in modeler because of(and thanks to) skelescript, but after 8.5 (and with better IKB) now I do everything in Layout. I still would like the freedom of skelegons in layout though.