gold material suggestion

[criodesign]

Dear all!
I am trying to make the typical ring of gold! The brought back text is that one of one song of my group!
...stanotte amore di stelle non ne conto...
...my love, tonight I will not cont any stars...
What about GOLD?
It's a very simply scene with only a spot light.
Whst do you think about?

[toby]

Looks pretty good, the texture in engraving is really nice. The reflection on top of the ring is pretty flat though - my suggestions, find a photograph of a real ring to use for reference, and work on the reflections. Either use hdr images for reflection maps or soft-edged white bounce cards, referred to as 'fischer boxes'.

[toby]

Now that I think about it, you might want to make that engraving texture more subtle, and bring a little shine back into it, a high-quality engraving probably doesn't look very bumpy but smooth. Also use higher anti-aliasing when you're ready to do the final, it will be a noticeable improvement.

[criodesign]

Looks pretty good, the texture in engraving is really nice. The reflection on top of the ring is pretty flat though - my suggestions, find a photograph of a real ring to use for reference, and work on the reflections. Either use hdr images for reflection maps or soft-edged white bounce cards, referred to as 'fischer boxes'.
Thanks a lot, but please explane me what you exactly mean with "fisher boxes" because I Konw this tecnique.

[toby]

Here's what I mean. Put this image on a luminous polygon, make it 'unseen by camera' and use it for reflections. You'll probably need 2 or 3.

This is only one method though, try the hdr reflections too.

[toby]

It takes some work, but this is what you get with this technique

[criodesign]

Now I understand what you mean!!!
Monday moorning i'll try to do some new render, and after i'll publish them!
Thank you!

[toby]

My pleasure!

This is the type of look you'll get with hdr reflections -
http://wedding.phebusdesign.com/images/menclassic/3x.jpg

Some depth of field like this would be cool too, but it's totally up to you, it won't look wrong without it.

[loki74]

well, that is pretty nice looking, I must say.

I agree about the engraving being a wee tad rough and about the reflections. I must try that Fischer Box technique myself sometime! Up until now I've only been using HDRI.

I'm not entirely sure because I'm quite the amatuer as far as lighting goes, but it seems to me that if the light reflecting to the ground was that intense, the ring would have some serious shine and specular going on. I dunno.. the ring just seems awfully un-lit given the amount of light its tossing off. I could very well be wrong on this, so you might want to wait for a second opinion on it. :thumbsup:

[toby]

That is a photograph btw, just in case you weren't sure :) I can't do it that photoreal!

[StereoMike]

oh you got me, I thought it was a rendering.

[criodesign]

well, that is pretty nice looking, I must say.

I agree about the engraving being a wee tad rough and about the reflections. I must try that Fischer Box technique myself sometime! Up until now I've only been using HDRI.

I'm not entirely sure because I'm quite the amatuer as far as lighting goes, but it seems to me that if the light reflecting to the ground was that intense, the ring would have some serious shine and specular going on. I dunno.. the ring just seems awfully un-lit given the amount of light its tossing off. I could very well be wrong on this, so you might want to wait for a second opinion on it. :thumbsup:
I prefere do not use Hdri tecnique because i prefere to create a scene like a photografer.
I've to work today on this, and in few ours i think i'll post some news!

[criodesign]

That's the result using a "fisher box" as light on top of the scene and changing the gold color (as Wikipedia suggest).
?

[StereoMike]

Looks very much as your first post...?

[toby]

The top reflection looks much better.

[StereoMike]

For my taste the reflection should be more interesting, right now, you see some brighter and diffuse area at the top (very much like your first post), but I think there could be some sharp details in it.
You get an idea, if you look at the picture, that toby posted.

How many fischer boxes did you use?
What are the settings for the recflection options on the envirinment tab (texture editor)?

[criodesign]

For my taste the reflection should be more interesting, right now, you see some brighter and diffuse area at the top (very much like your first post), but I think there could be some sharp details in it.
You get an idea, if you look at the picture, that toby posted.

How many fischer boxes did you use?
What are the settings for the recflection options on the envirinment tab (texture editor)?
I use only one fisher box, and in the environment tab I use Reflction option and backdrop because I dont have any picture as environment.
Here I attach two images.
The problem dont seems so difficult, but as we know, to make simple images is much more difficult than to make complex effect.

[StereoMike]

I guess, there's no totally clean studio environment, that would produce only a soft shine on a reflecting surface, you will always have some reflections of the camera, people, light-rig etc..
Therefor I think the hdr-approach is legitimate, cause it fakes a rich environment.

In this picture I used the well known kitchen-probe.
But I have to admit, that I raised contrast and lowered gamma in post.
Mike

[shaol]

your last render seem to yellow and you have some kind of diether going on. I also think some kind of reflection would help.