Video Clips Extended With Fades

[harley]

I have a problem in TEdit. When I have different video clips on the timeline/storyboard and I insert fades at each location, the video clip extends in the fade and shows a part of what I had cut off from that clip. Is there a way to stop this? Or do you have to try and guess at where to cut your clip short/long to make up for this?

[SBowie]

This is a tad hard to follow - any chance you could post a screenshot from TEd's timeline?

[Jim Capillo]

Just set your in/out points and simply overlap the clips (drag them so the out point of the 1st clip is overlapping the in point of the 2nd). A fade will be inserted automatically. You can adjust the length of the fade by dragging left/right on the 2nd clip.

No need to insert fades, timeline does it automatically. In storyboard, it should be as simple as dropping a fade where you want it...... works here without changing the ins/outs.

[Paul Lara]

Originally posted by harley
when I insert fades at each location, the video clip extends in the fade and shows a part of what I had cut off from that clip.

This is done intentionally, Harley.
The reason is to preserve your project's total time.
You see, the fade is exetending your clips out/in points to make sure it's fully completed by the frame you had designated as the in. Otherwise, changing or adding a single transition would lengethen your entire project, which can be a nightmare if you're producing a :30 second commercial that must be 29 seconds and 20 frames.

[harley]

I have tried dropping the fades in on Storyboard and it still extends the clip.

I like the Alt-f that inserts fades for all transitions, but if I have to go back in and lengthen/shorten each clip, that is a huge waste of time with roughly 40 clips.
So if I am hearing Paul correctly, I need to guess and cut short my clips on the front and back end as the Toaster will automatically lengthen them by a few frames each. Is that correct?

[MediaSig]

Hey Harley,

I think you will just have to re-lengthen your clips and make sure you have trimmed back enough footage to include in the fades.

Example - I know I'm going to have 30 frame disssolves between each clip in my timeline. I need to make sure that I find the end of my clip and then trim back 15 frames on the heads and tails to make the tranisitions work.

Yeah...it takes a little pre-planning, but once you get that idea locked in your head, you'll make it a habit. Now you can drop in all your transitions and you should be fine.

Greg

[Paul Lara]

Originally posted by harley
I So if I am hearing Paul correctly, I need to guess and cut short my clips on the front and back end as the Toaster will automatically lengthen them by a few frames each. Is that correct?

Actually, it's not lengthening your clips, it's only using frames before the in point to use as pad for the transition. The default transition length is one second, which is a bit long for my taste. I prefer either cuts or 5-frame fades, which can be changed in Prefs.

[sierra]

I too am having difficulty with using DVE's cutting off my clips.

Are you saying I should add 15 frames at the beginning and end of each clip where there will be a transition? (30 frames because the transition takes a second and we're going roughly 30 frames per second--half a second at the beginning requires 15 frames and half a second at the end of clips requires another 15.) In that way, when the DVE shortens the clip, it will be Ok?

I couldn't find in Preferences where I could change the fact that Ted preserves how long my project is. I don't care how long it is and wish it would just expand the project when I drop in a transition. Is this an option that I missed?

One last question: when I start playing with the clips to change in/out points as it says in the manual, suddenly my transitions go black and I can't get them back except by reloading them from the file bin. Has this ever happened to anyone else? Did you solve it? I have gone over and over this in the manual and can't seem to get it right.

Thanks...Sierra

[Lew]

So, here is another aspect of the same problem, that is, making a clip last exactly some time interval. Doing a tape for testing the other day, needed the response period to be one minute - I can have :59:27 or I can have 1:00:02, but I can't have 1:00:00. Anyone know why?

And to go along with that, is the time code output by the VT2 drop-frame or non drop-frame? Looked in preferences in case it was selectable, didn't see it. In any case, the time code on my record deck (internal genenerated) and the time code displayed by the VT don't quite match. Not very serious most of the time, but just wondering why.:confused:

[wvp]

1) The Toaster outputs drop-frame timecode.

2) There is no preference for preserving the length of your project. The preference Paul referred to was for setting the deafult length for how long your transitions (DVE's) are.

3) As for the video clip issue:
If you create a clip that is say 20 seconds and then you put a DVE at the end (say a dissolve to go to another clip), and this DVE is 1 second in length then the DVE will start 15 frames before the end of your clip.
So at :19.15 the dissolve begins. At :20.00 (your out point) clip # 1 is no longer visable. This applies to any DVE - if the DVE is a trajectory, then clip #1 will be off screen at :20.00.
If you think about it, it makes sense - you trim a clip to end at :20.00 because at :20.01 you have bars recorded. Now you drop a DVE in. If the software did not work this way then you would see the bars during the transition.
Here is an illustration:

[Gordon]

Whether the clip boundaries are extended or not is controlled by the Preference setting: "TED Automatic In/Out Offset".

If set to "No Offset" then the clips will overlap one another and the total project will be shortened by the length of the DVE.

If set to any other value then both clips will be lengthened by half the length of the DVE so that the total project length is preserved.