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[rog-72]

Just want to show off my latest work... rendered in Fprime

[pixym]

Nice and ... Noiseless, that is quite unusual with FPrime!
:eek:
Could you share your "secret" Please...

[otacon]

I know his secret, long render times. :)

[rog-72]

Fprime rendered with black background.
1 arealight right outside the window.
150% radiosity in MonteCarlo 2 bounces

put it on render before you go to sleep

next morning... nice render :-)

composite in Photoshop and use sharpen, for getting better details...

thats it!!

but i wish for a renderfarm function in Worley Fprime.

u could just set refinement level on the pictures and go...
1 pic for 1 machine... It could'nt be so hard to program a tool for this?
and worley would earn a lot of money....

[ingo]

Nice and ... Noiseless, that is quite unusual with FPrime!
:eek:
Could you share your "secret" Please...

Huh ? Never heard of noise problems with FPrime, maybe you're area light quality is to low ? But the usual antialiasing problems are there, like on the TV in the first picture.

BTW, nice pictures. But why are the surround speakers on the floor, looks like your hamster wants to enjoy surround video :)

[rog-72]

It's common in norway to set up a surround system like that :-)

try it yourself, gives that special mono-surround sound :-)

[ingo]

Still the depressive winter season in Norway ? Leeds to some strange experiments.... :D

Just looking at your website, nice pictures, but who are those two strange looking brothers ;)

[rog-72]

Ahhh the brothers is 2 photomodels that we gave a huge amount of money for posing on our website :-)

nice lookin dudes actually........

and very smart...

[lasco]

Huh ? Never heard of noise problems with FPrime

hu… never heard you said Ingo ?
well or we don't use the same Fprime,
or it's that you don't mind rendering 5 times longer with FP than
native LW to get the same amount of "no noise"…

I personnaly never use any aera light and always
had incredible amounts of noise with FP, much more
than with LW for the same rendering time…
well, must say this happened ONLY when FPrime did not crash…
;)

[ingo]

Maybe because i always use area lights so i don't realize the grain ;) Otherwise i always have to render longer because of antialiasing problems, not because of the grain. FWIW my usual FPrime quality is between 12 and 15 for my print resolution renderings.

[rog-72]

if u want realistic shadows, you HAVE to use arealights.

so i wait longer instead of getting sharp shadows.

pointlight and distant light is not real, and really creates unnatural pictures.

[lasco]

i always have to render longer because of antialiasing problems, not because of the grain.
Well the fact is it's a bit hard to compare because noise and aliasing are solved
at the same time in FP while LW allows you to control both of them independently…
it's sometimes hard to say if a dirty result is due to noise or to AA with FP,
while with LW you know that increasing the AA passes ALSO decreases the amount
of noise due to radiosity…


my usual FPrime quality is between 12 and 15 for my print resolution renderings.
by the way, could you tell me how heavy are the scenes you render
with FP in amount of polys ?
I regularly work on hundred thousands or even millions polys scenes
and saw that with such scenes FP :
- crashes when I use the previewer (the only thing that could be interesting…)
- may render correctly when it's the renderer but never faster than LW
with the settings I use.

I concluded that FPrime was good for little interior scenes
with monte-carlo radio + much reflections, but not for
huge exterior scenes with backdrop only and few reflections…

[ingo]

Hmmm, it seems you bought a different FPrime, or maybe you should add more RAM. My scenes are always between 1 000 000 and 4 000 000 polys. And the preview takes some time to come up and crashes sometimes (mostly only with 8.2), but rendering is way faster than LW. FPrime renders faster if the scene has many polygones, many reflections and/or raydiosity, and from my last experience high resolution renderings are also much faster.

[lasco]

don't think it's a question of RAM, I already got the max (1,7 G)
on my G4.
But I must say I did not touch FP for a year and I switched to PC now…
maybe it could work better.

[ravantra]

I have a couple of comments. In the first one the area rug looks awfully tall / thick. In the second one the top of the range is too black and void of detail. Is it plastic? Should have at least some highlights..... I like them otherwise, especially the fabric textures....