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phantom_tiger
09-30-2003, 10:26 AM
I'm trying to make a diamond. I've got a really good shape for it but I can't seem to get a nice sparkly surface, so it looks like a real diamond. Transparency and Reflections just seem not to do it. I'm trying to do like a real high quality sparkly diamond.... Any ideas?

Bryce had a nice diamond texture, but i don't have access to that anymore since they aren't making it fo os X.
wacom
09-30-2003, 10:55 AM
Do you mean the highlights and hot spots? If so you should be able to get the look you want using some LW plugins, and if you have DF or DFX the highlights tool will let you get real good (and real looking) "sparklies" with a ton of control.
phantom_tiger
09-30-2003, 11:58 AM
Maybe that's what its missing, my diamond does look kind of flat...

My lightwave does have plugins, but I'm not sure if it has DFX or DF. Where do I check for that? And if I do have that where do I apply if?(I never heard of that otherwise I'd look for myself)
mattclary
09-30-2003, 12:54 PM
How about posting a pic. We can get a better idea of what you need to change.
phaedrus
10-01-2003, 12:55 AM
are you using inner & outer (the flipped poly technique) surfaces?
check out a few tutes for making things like glass, etc..
this is a nice place for gemstone tips and some samples i think..hope the link works
http://www.3dlapidary.com/Home.htm
mips
10-01-2003, 03:08 PM
Did you read this :
http://vbulletin.newtek.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=808&highlight=diamond
phantom_tiger
10-01-2003, 05:20 PM
Well, here is a test pic....its still glassy looking though, Any tips? I think its because I don't have any color dispersion.....not sure though....Ideas??
wacom
10-01-2003, 06:02 PM
It ain't cheap...but this is a good solution...still you could get G2 for this price...but the pictures are real "purdy".

http://www.evasion3d.com/sp_intro.html
starbase1
10-02-2003, 05:50 AM
Two things strike me as not looking right...

1. No prismatic type effects - i.e. colour fringes.

2. No highlights.

Not sure of the best way to address the first one, but use of bloom filters, or adding some tiny lens flares should fix the second one.

Nick
phantom_tiger
10-02-2003, 08:56 AM
What's a bloom filter? I'll try it if it looks better then the flare....Still.. Any idea how to give it some prismatic look? I'm a poor college student and can't afford a nice plug-in...anyway to fake it?
Dangerman
10-02-2003, 03:14 PM
Faking the prismatics is not easy. There's a guy over on comp.graphics.apps.lightwave who described a technique once ... even threatened to do a tutorial someday.

Maybe if you went over there and asked nice, he'd tell you how it works. His name is Dark Science, and he's really a very helpful sort ... good luck.
duderender
10-02-2003, 03:32 PM
I know it's not relating to the "diamond" discussion, but the text could use less extrusion depth as it detracts from the diamond and makes the text look muddy.
phantom_tiger
10-03-2003, 10:23 AM
"there's a guy over on comp.graphics.app.lightwave"

Whats's that? Is that a web address?
duderender
10-03-2003, 11:32 AM
phantom_tiger,

that's a newsgroup. download free agent or use outlook express and add a news server ( you most likely have access through your ISP).

Then subscribe to the comp.graphics.app.lightwave group.
phantom_tiger
10-06-2003, 05:34 PM
How's this?
Edbittner
10-07-2003, 05:08 AM
Did this with OGO_Hikari default diamond scene.(And a little "bloom").
Ed
Edbittner
10-07-2003, 05:21 AM
Oh, the trial of OGO_Hikari is FREE!
Ed
Edbittner
10-07-2003, 07:31 AM
Another one.
Plug-ins used: OGO_Hikari, bloom, corona and PG_SCat v.1(default settings)
Ed
(PG_SCat v.1 was free from Flay.com)
phantom_tiger
10-07-2003, 09:54 AM
Kay, what is bloom, and where did you get OGO_Hikari thing
Edbittner
10-07-2003, 07:25 PM
Bloom..........read the manual. OGO, do a search on flay.com.
Ed
bloontz
10-07-2003, 07:53 PM
http://www.3dlapidary.com/Home.htm

This is a great site with lots of free models and other gem related resources. Just a FYI for those interested.
phantom_tiger
10-09-2003, 09:29 AM
I feel like such a beginnner....but.. is corona in the manual too?
jeremyhardin
10-09-2003, 09:46 AM
fraid so. both are image filters. (hint hint)

and here are the plugs mentioned...

ogo_hikari:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~pq1a-ogs/sss_e.html

PG_ScratchCat:
http://kaniserver.homeip.net/%7Ekonoha/psycho/plugin.htm
(japanese only)
phantom_tiger
10-09-2003, 10:29 AM
me again.....I read about bloom and corona and tried them, but...well.... can anyone explain them to me in lamen's terms, I'm not getting what the manual says