SpeedEdit2 Crash with unhandled Exception

[Tomc]

Having repeated problems with SpeedEdit 2.0 Crashing when I drag a Video or JPEG file into the timeline.

When this happens it brings up my visual studio debugger with this message - unhandled win32 exception occurred in speededit.exe[1908]

There are about 100 video clips in this particular sub directory which range in 1 min to 10 min each.

I have about 300 gigs of free space on my hard drive.

I already deleted speededit2.0 and reintalled it with the same outcome.

It was working properly for about 1 week.

What should I do next ?

[KiloWatkins]

You did not say what OS or system specs, it really does help. But before posting, try and get the files you want from Explorer(what Version?), Copy/Paste, to see what happens. That is cause and effect trouble shooting. If it loads, then must have a Prefs setting. Are there mixed formats in the folder? Seperate into new folders. JPEG, MPG, ect... I had the debugger installed a long time ago, but removed it, from some error like you are seeing. Depending on system specs, I never Cache thumbs.

[SBowie]

In my experience over the years, crashes of this sort often relate to graphics card driver issues. Have you recently changed graphics cards, or drivers?

[Tomc]

My System is as follows
Pentium Dual Core @ 2.5 GHZ.
3 Gigs of Ram
Page File 921 mb used, 4035 available.

I have not changed my graphic card in the past years. My Lightwave 9.5 runs fine on the same machine.

[SBowie]

I have not changed my graphic card in the past years.You might want to manually hunt down and install the most recent video card driver, as one possibility.

[Tomc]

Since I have Tried everything else and I have an extra video card, I'll swap it out this weekend and let you know how it works.
Tom

[KiloWatkins]

FYI, lots of ways to squeeze some performance in SE. Go into Prefs and turn OFF, rollover thumbs and previews. Leave the SEoutput window as small as it gets, use the FWire pass through to view the timeline y/c or composite on an xternal monitor, and even turn OFF SEoutput window in SE. Swapping the GPU will help if your GPUram is larger. If your running XP, look for an RTF/doc in SE main program folder. Edit Boot.ini with the 3GB switch. I also have several Control Panel shortcuts on my XP desktop. Sounds, turn off win sounds when in SE. There are like 10 or more Services/msconfig you can turn from auto to manual, so they don't load into conventional memory at boot.

[SBowie]

Since I have Tried everything else and I have an extra video card, I'll swap it out this weekend and let you know how it works.
TomThat would be an interesting exercise. If it doesn't make any difference, another reasonable possibility is that there is something wonky about a file in that particular folder. Clearing out the hidden info files and letting them regenerate would be a start, followed by isolating them in groups if necessary to see if you can locate a trouble-maker.

[KiloWatkins]

Spot on Steve. You will see the info folders in an Explorer window Tom. I always forget to have people do this Steve, as for whatever reason, I just never need to do this. Any .info folder SE generates can be deleted Tom, and when in SE and you goto any folder, it will generate a new one, for any pics or video in that folder. Any .format that SE can not read, will have a ? picon

[Tomc]

Have not changed the video card yet but when I go into the debugger it says;
Unhandled exception at 0x6441e414 in SpeedEdit.exe:0C0000005 Access violiatioin reading locotion 0x1efdd0000.

The call stack is pointing to AVCodec-nt,x86.dll.


It looks like we need a newtek programmer to figure this out but its craching when SpeedEdit calls the AVCodec. This happens two different ways.
1. Dragging a clip into the timeline. (The instant it hits the timeline, at random times)
2. Moving clips around withint the timeline. (At random times)

Thanks,
Tom

[KiloWatkins]

Your video card drivers, or the GPU settings, are what is being reported. What OS, what GPU? If Vista you turn off UAE in Control Panel. Where are you sending SE Cache? When you move a file to the timeline, SE Cache is updated.

[SBowie]

It may well be a bug, but perhaps just with specific clips. You don't mention whether you've tried the suggestions re: the info files or segregating files to narrow it down, Tom. For that matter, we don't know what format the video clips are?

[Tomc]

Your're right Steve, Sunday morning I did a couple of things to help isolate my problem.
1. Run the "Clean SpeedEDIT Configuration.bat" in the program directory.
2. Tried a Clips using a .MOV Format instead of the .MTS file format which is generated from by Canon VIXIA HF R10 Camera.
I Played with it for about 1 hour with the MOV forrmat and I did not get a crash. But when I switch to the .MTS (Mpeg4) it crashes within a few minutes. Not sure what I will do next but thanks for keeping me on track.

TOM.

[SBowie]

AVCHD can be troublesome at the best of times, Tom, and a resource hog. You might find it a whole lot simpler to use the new Convert to SpeedHQ feature in the filebin rather than fight with it ...

[Scott Bates]

Try Steve's SpeedHQ suggestion Tom, converting .mts to SpeedHQ works great here. Not only works, but it's fast.

[Shawn Farrell]

in the folder with the same name as the project

This should not happen, are you beta testing some new flash or apple product?

[Shawn Farrell]

from the folder with the same name as the project

did you upgrade flash or apple?

[Tomc]

Just Just wanted to say thanks to all of the Newtek users who jumped-in and helped a newbe get through the tough troubleshooting tasks. Especially you Steve.

Thanks,

Tom

[Mutley Eugenius]

Are there quality settings anywhere for SpeedHQ? What kind of reduction in quality is there from .MTS files to SpeedHQ?

[KiloWatkins]

Are there quality settings anywhere for SpeedHQ? What kind of reduction in quality is there from .MTS files to SpeedHQ?

If you do a simple LW render of anything, when you choose avi and codec, you see a config when you pick HQ. It will not let you do anything.

Hope your doing well, and did you ever patch a monitor downstairs to see the screen upstairs?

TakeCare

[joseburgos]

Are there quality settings anywhere for SpeedHQ? What kind of reduction in quality is there from .MTS files to SpeedHQ?

There are a few flavors but no settings to configure.
HQ 4.2.0
HQ 4.2.2
HQ 4.4.4
They also have the same but with alpha so just add .4 to the end of the ones I listed for there alpha variants.
So from M2T I would use 4.2.2 just in case it has the extra chroma like NewTek's studio profile. HQ 4.4.4 from a M2T would only give you a larger file size and no other benefit.
When you re-compress you re-compress but I really don't know the answer to your question so maybe NewTek can answer that portion.

Take care,

[Tomc]

Yes, I have switched my routine to include converting the canon's .MTS files to SpeedHQ. Everything is working find now.

Thanks for your feedback.

Tom

[joseburgos]

Tom,
Glad for you but could you try something on a test clip if you have time. I don't know if this will work and you may very well be wasting your time (my disclaimer).
Inside SE2 in the media window, right click on a test clip from the Canon and change the extension from .mts to .avi and tell me if nothing changes, it stops working, it works, or other.
This has helped on .mov files so I am curious is all.
Edited: I just found out from another user that it did noting for him as his problems where audio related (24 bit) and not video. So you can try anyway but I feel it will not work.

Take care,