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RWoodcock
09-07-2003, 02:34 PM
Here is a screen grab from an edit test made from a discreet edit system. The results are not good. VT3 missed the fade in, the one dissolve and the one wipe.
It also missed the split edits. The timecode values are also messed up.
What can I say. Is anybody using this for valid recapture or mastering of edl's??
Robert Woodcock
MediaSig
09-07-2003, 02:39 PM
...wow.... :rolleyes:
I was hoping to online some projects from an AVID that's still working with AVR 75. I'm gonna try some tests today and see what happens.
This is not looking good though. Thanks for the info.
Greg
chribba
09-07-2003, 05:07 PM
OK i think it´s like this. EDL list cant help you with dissolves fade or wipe´s, its only numbers.
To be able to get project between "say" Avid and "VT3"you need somethink like AAF, MXF or OMF.
VT3 does not have the support for that yet, but here is some old links that talks about it.
http://vbulletin.newtek.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5101
http://vbulletin.newtek.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6839
Now if VT3 could have support for OMF,AAF and MXF you cold smile all day long.
Today u can only batch edl list......
Paul help them out here :-)
chribba:)
MediaSig
09-07-2003, 06:19 PM
If I'm right, EDL's DO have support for basic switcher functions (aka - Dissolves, and some basic wipes).
This shouldn't be a problem.
Greg
RWoodcock
09-08-2003, 10:56 AM
Yes! any proper edl will import basic switcher effects like dissolves and basic wipes. The big problem is the times are not right! The edl has two tracks of audio and VT3 mishandles it as a stereo channel. The split edit converted out by capturing the duration of the clip again but placed it twice in the timeline. The inpoints of the captured clips are right but the out points are off. Not good! I bought VT3 for two things, Mini-dv editing that right now goes green after 6 to 10 minutes(although I have a patch right now that has not been tested) and uncompressed mastering of off-line projects. That does not work. Perhaps if Newtek had spent a little more time on the timecode support and less time on the spline editor. They could have always added that extra after the basic system was working.
Robert
Aussie
09-08-2003, 11:48 AM
Robert, please send me your EDL file for testing in-house.
The edl "text" list shown in your posted image does not have any audio tracks visible, and does not show any split edits either.
EDL's can handle transitions, so I would like to check out with your file. Please send to Aussie at...
mholten@newtek.com
Cheers, Aussie
RWoodcock
09-08-2003, 01:36 PM
My mistake I did not have the audio turned on. Here is a Jpeg of the results with the audio tagged. Doesn't look any better.
Robert
UnCommonGrafx
09-08-2003, 02:21 PM
Send it, though.
Aussie's been let out of the cage. Cool... Hope the leash is LONGGGGG....
hehe
Aussie
09-08-2003, 03:56 PM
Got the file, thanks.
Tracking it through now.
BTW, any cages are probably of my own making, and my leashes are only accessories, selected to color co-ordinate with my drinking clothes. :)
GO AUSSIE GO!
I'm going to try some tests this Friday, also...
UnCommonGrafx
09-08-2003, 04:22 PM
Yup,
Set me straight, big fella...
I knew that but didn't think it appropriate to say so. :cool:
In our editions sometime we need to import .edl
match it with the digital cut
add effects, exports some avis to AE
reload it and print to tape.
We try sony9000 edl, fades are ok... but velocity changes dont.
PLEASE!
Wich .edl type we must import TED to "read" timewarps list maked in another edition programs?
tkx in advance
Wich .edl type we must import TED to "read" timewarps list maked in another edition programs?
same question again...
any help is welcome
jonpienaar
05-23-2006, 04:26 PM
Here is a screen grab from an edit test made from a discreet edit system. The results are not good. VT3 missed the fade in, the one dissolve and the one wipe.
It also missed the split edits. The timecode values are also messed up.
What can I say. Is anybody using this for valid recapture or mastering of edl's??
Robert Woodcock
I did the exact same exercise over a year ago, with a friend's VT3 and my discreet edit. A "straight cuts" edl would come in fine, but the minute there are overlays, it seems to throw the system out.
It was investigated by Customer Care at the time, and although edl support was promised, it is sad to see it has not yet materialised, as it is the *one thing* that is stopping me from buying toaster.
(Wonders: does SpeedEDIT address this problem, or VT[5]?)
j0n
Overlays also cause problems when moving thing in the storyboard. I would be that these issues are related.
Ivan
chribba
05-24-2006, 02:32 AM
Know what EDL list can do?? ... Any special wipes,overlays or dve´s is not handled by EDL...
Read more? http://www.edlmax.com/maxguide.html
chribba
UnCommonGrafx
07-27-2006, 03:44 PM
Any movement on this?
Trying to create an edl for import and it's not working.
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