Audio Mixer - Monitor each TED track separately? Level?

[Tom Wood]

Hi All,

I put together a rough project for the first time in TED[VT3] that included two audio tracks, one for voice and the other for music. I was expecting the audio mixer to give me separate control of each track, but it combines both on one channel. Is this working the way it is designed? I can put each track on a separate DDR and get separate channel controls in the mixer, but then getting everything to start together doesn't seem possible. Is there a patch I'm not seeing? :confused:

Also, I have to push both the channel slider and the Master out all the way up to get the signal barely high enough. I've seen discussion of this here before, is there a good fix yet? I'm recording the voiceovers into WAVELAB and then batch processing with a compressor and normalizer to get the volume as high as possible before sending it to TED, but even then it's a stretch.

Thanks,

Tom

[Kurt_Henning]

hmmmm

I would not be doing this with the DDR

I would use Vtedit

I would select the clip

Go to the audio part of that clip and choose advanced

From there you can isolate the channel that you want. And if you need to boost it, then do it here.

If the audio is still too low, then select it,

hit ctrl-c (copy)

hit "q" to go to the head of the clip

hit ctrl-v (paste)

this should paste an additional copy of the wave in the same spot in time as the original.

Listen. Loud enough. If not, repeat the above steps.

To avoid oversaturation, don't boost the VUs too much before applying these steps. IF you do, you will notice

So, if you only want one channel, turn the one you don't want down, turn the other up and hit mono.

Good Luck. I just don't think DDRs will do what you want.

[wvp]

To put it another way,
Each DDR gets its own channel on the mixer. If you opened two ted's, each would get its own channel.
Listen to what Kurt said, if you are editing multiple audio tracks then select the track in the timeline & play with the levels/balance, etc in properties for each.
As for audio levels - good luck! The level you bring in will not be the level that goes out. Determining what the level should be (at this point) has to be done by ear only - there are no level indicators that you can rely on, sorry! :(
Follow Kurts steps to boost the audio.

[Tom Wood]

Thanks guys,

I tried boosting the audio in the properties panel, but it distorts as soon as I push it up, so no go there.

However, this raises another question. We were able to get the VT card and a high end 24/96 audio card (Digital Audio Labs - DAL) to co-exist in the same PC after carefully selecting the PCI slots to avoid resource conflicts. (I posted a few weeks back about that issue.) As everyone points out, the audio card can't operate from within VT. Interestingly enough, the audio hardware settings in WinXP don't affect the VT output at all, which means that I can leave the DAL card in/out active. So I'm wondering if I could plug the output of the VT card audio into the input of the DAL card, use WAVELAB to boost it back up and monitor it, and then come back out of the DAL card into the recording deck.

Hmmm....I'm willing to try it unless there's a technical explosion in the forecast.

TW

[irfan]

Could there be a delay problem with the audio in this approach?

Only thing I can think of right now.

Also, did you try the multiple identical audio tracks idea. It really works well.

Irfan

[Tom Wood]

Worse than a delay, I got a really loud echoing effect. Not sure what is going on there. Maybe the cards are still sharing some part of the computer that allows a signal bleed-thru? If so, probably best to set the WinXP audio card settings to the appropriate card that is in use. Yeah, the multiple copies of a track seems to work well.

Thanks,

Tom

[Kurt_Henning]

Tom,

you have an open channel on the mixer.

most likely the problem is that the deck that you are recording to is turned up. Just hit mute and you can leave the input set where you last left it.

This is probably your problem.