how to do this in LW(hole in round surface)

[walkinginspace]

Any clues on doing this in LW modeler?

[toby]

little more information please - is that a problem image or is that what you want to achieve, and what do you mean by 'round surface' as it pertains to the image?

[DigiMatt]

Hi, If you mean how to do a squarish hole in a subpatch part of a model you can use weights to accomplish it, atleast thats how I would do it. If this is not what you meant please give us some more information on the problem.

cheers

[riki]

I think you need to cut those 5 sided Polys. Something like this.

[riki]

Here's the model. That section of mesh looks like part of a Cyborg Girl that was posted over at CG Channel yesterday.

[omeone]

This tool will help:

http://www.flay.com/GetDetail.cfm?ID=1355

If you want square hole in a sub-patch object, use weights.
If you want a round hole, use more subdivisions.

[walkinginspace]

It is the cybergirl image. I've attached what the subdivided finished mesh looks like and the resulting little circles in the mesh....

[omeone]

extra detail mainly created with the plug I mentioned above - add edges

hope this helps...

[toby]

or just smooth shift twice in row

[walkinginspace]

Can you show me step by step how you went about that....a small tutorial if you will....it would be greatly appreciated.

[walkinginspace]

and i was directing that question to omeone....thanks!

steve

[toby]

awww, now I'm hurt :( ......;)

[riki]

Use Edgetools to make the diamond shape that omeone did.

Then select and Merge the 4 centre Polys.

Then then inset bevel the central quad.

Then Shift Bevel and your just about done.

Maybe Smoothshift the bottom of the hole if you want a hard edge.

[omeone]

HI walkinginspace,
here's a quick video:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~omeone/New_clip0017.avi

I hope you can pick up what I was doing here, I didn't record sound to keep the file size small (and because I cant stand listening to my own voice ;) )

I have only used 4 commands anyway:
-Box (SHIFT+x)
-Add Edges (F9 for me - that's how good I think this tool is)
-Delete (Del)
-Extrude (SHIFT+e)

There is documentation on the Edgetools plugin at the link above or in the download I think.

I'm not saying this is the best way to achieve this, in fact - I've never made a hole this way before myself, I usually used the smooth-shift that Toby is talking about, in LW there are many many ways to skin the cat.

On a last point, the reason there is extra edges in my pics, is because LW does not create sub-patches from polys with more than 4 sides (yet;)), if the example you posted was done in LW, you'd have to add edges as shown below to keep all polys with 4 edges

[hrgiger]

A lot of times when I need a hole in an object, I'll take the detail out approach and start with the hole, add the immediate surrounding geometry, and then stitch it back into the mesh.

[pauland]

Nice clip, omeone.

Paul